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Brahminizing & Sanskritizing Buddhism & sīlabbata-parāmāsa

Textual analysis and comparative discussion on early Buddhist sects and texts.
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, by Richard S. Cohen

This article may be of interest where discussed is the “domestication” of the Saṅgha and Buddhism through the ritual exchange of gifts.
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– Ivan Strenski, 1983
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Postby ancientbuddhism » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:42 pm

The two truth theory of sammuti-sacca and paramattha-sacca may represent some throwback to the Upaniṣadic notion of duality between māya (illusion) and ātman (Brahman Absolute).
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Postby pulga » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:46 pm

Sílabbataparámása is overcome--its meaning only realized -- with the attainment of sotápanna. "Clinging to rites and rituals" might be a comprehensible rendering from our point of view, but it's also been rendered -- by Ñanamoli -- as "misapprehension of virtue and vows" which seems to make the term more worthy of deeper thought. Whatever the case, its meaning is transcendent and it's dubious to try to achieve an understanding of it through historical speculation.

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Historical reasoning is always fallible: it's inherently so. Now how could a belief in what is fallible yield wisdom?

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The three fetters are a tandem –doubt itself being one of them - that are overcome with the arising of the dibbacakkhu. Any understanding of them – and particularly that of sakkayaditthi – based on some free-floating belief of what might have been going on in an Indian Brahmin’s head three thousand years ago is suspect, if not absurd. Belief entails doubt. An understanding of the Dhamma must be concrete, apophantic, verifiable here and now.
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