Based on what I feel, it seems that some of Theravada do not accept emptiness of phenomena.
Please note that this is what I feel.
Why I say this is because I sense that some of us here regard suffering as real. Ignorance is real. Impermanence is real.
If we accept the emptiness of phenomena, there is no suffering, there is no ignorance, there is no increment, there is no decrement, there is no gain, there is no loss, there is no achievement, and even there is no impermanence. There is no existence nor non-existence. There is also nothing in between.
Since phenomena is empty, no self, no essence, no identity, we have no base at all to put the properties.
If the subject itself is not there, how can we have the properties, such as impermanence, permanence, existence, non-existence,etc.
We say this car is impermanent. We say this because there is a car.
But if the car itself doesn't exist, there is actually no self called a car.
When there is no self of car, where is the impermanence? How can we say something is impermanent, when the subject itself doesn't exist?
There realization of there is no self, automatically and naturally bring " someone" to the state of no attachment, no craving, no fear etc. because there is no base to put all these properties.
We no need to even let go. Why? Because there is nothing to let go. We are naturallly and automatically relax, sharp, and clear. No struggle at all.
This topic is huge and I have to interest to discuss it further. This kind of discussion is definitely out of Theravada school.
Although I somehow also feel that Theravada should also accept the emptiness of phenomena, I come across a claim for a particular Buddhist school that Theravada do not accept the emptiness of phenomena.
It makes me wonder as well, because from the discussion in this forum, the suffering for example is view as something real, not as an illusion.
There is an identity in this universe called suffering.
In this way, the emptiness of phenomena is then not acknowledge.
Last edited by DarwidHalim
on Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:52 am, edited 2 times in total.
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!