Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby JKhedrup » Fri May 03, 2013 11:50 am

No, they actuallybelieve they visit nibbana in meditation, and can ask Lord Buddha questions about their past lives.

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Anders » Fri May 03, 2013 11:59 am

"Even if my body should be burnt to death in the fires of hell
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"

--- Gandavyuha Sutra

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby JKhedrup » Fri May 03, 2013 12:11 pm

Point well taken.

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Simon E. » Fri May 03, 2013 12:41 pm

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Anders » Fri May 03, 2013 1:05 pm

"Even if my body should be burnt to death in the fires of hell
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"

--- Gandavyuha Sutra

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Simon E. » Fri May 03, 2013 1:31 pm

As my first teacher was CTR I can hardly argue.
Although his " mixture" had different components. He would have no truck with claims of any sort as many of us learned the hard way... :smile:
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Wayfarer » Fri May 03, 2013 1:37 pm

There are some parallels here with Mdme Blavatsky. Even a similarity, now I think of it.
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few ~ Suzuki-roshi

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 03, 2013 4:28 pm

Through Dzogchen we can really understand what God is and we don’t have to worry if there is a God or not. God always exists as our real nature, the base, for everybody. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri May 03, 2013 4:45 pm

Through Dzogchen we can really understand what God is and we don’t have to worry if there is a God or not. God always exists as our real nature, the base, for everybody. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Sara H » Fri May 03, 2013 9:38 pm

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby pueraeternus » Fri May 03, 2013 10:31 pm

If you believe certain words, you believe their hidden arguments. When you believe something is right or wrong, true of false, you believe the assumptions in the words which express the arguments. Such assumptions are often full of holes, but remain most precious to the convinced.

- The Open-Ended Proof from The Panoplia Prophetica

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Sara H » Fri May 03, 2013 10:33 pm

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby JKhedrup » Fri May 03, 2013 10:41 pm

As i said, huge fan of hsuan hua. I spent six months in his monastery in california. I also lived in a monastery in taiwan, and in a theravada forest tradition monastery in thailand for more than two years.

So, while in your quest to defend Jiyu kennet may come fro genuine feelings of injustice, to try and label me as a Vajrayana triumphalist will be amusing to most on the board who gave read my posts or know me. How many monks have spent years living in monasteries of other traditions?

I have been called wishy washy and perhaps that is accurate, but i find the accusation of sectarianism so baseless it is nearly funny. Does thisimpression come fro my previousopinions on the impirtance of the vinaya?

In short, i have no issue withthe genuine teachings in the lineage of bodhidharma. I love his platform sutra and the works of later masters including ven hsuan hua, suzuki and hsu yun.

My issue is not with differing traditions on buddhdharma, my issue us with western interpretations of them that incorporate elements which lead toproblems for practitioners, and organizations who try to frame every detractor as somehow damaged rather than using the criticism for improvement.

Please read my posts and look at my experience i the monastic life ofothertraditions before making ill informed and offensive insinuations about sectarianism. If you read a prior post of mine even in this thread, i questioned judging obc entirely on the basis of past wrongs, but he inability of obc practiotiobers here and in other forums to endure any tupe of criticism makes me think maybe many of the other posters are correct.

Sorry for the typos, working on a tablet device.
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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby pueraeternus » Fri May 03, 2013 10:43 pm

If you believe certain words, you believe their hidden arguments. When you believe something is right or wrong, true of false, you believe the assumptions in the words which express the arguments. Such assumptions are often full of holes, but remain most precious to the convinced.

- The Open-Ended Proof from The Panoplia Prophetica

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Sara H » Fri May 03, 2013 10:44 pm

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Sara H » Fri May 03, 2013 10:49 pm

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby pueraeternus » Fri May 03, 2013 10:52 pm

If you believe certain words, you believe their hidden arguments. When you believe something is right or wrong, true of false, you believe the assumptions in the words which express the arguments. Such assumptions are often full of holes, but remain most precious to the convinced.

- The Open-Ended Proof from The Panoplia Prophetica

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Re: Order of Buddhist Contemplatives

Postby Sara H » Fri May 03, 2013 10:56 pm

"Life is full of suffering. AND Life is full of the Eternal
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
OR
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer

" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy


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