Doubts about Pure land

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby sinweiy » Fri May 03, 2013 7:16 am

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"Enlightenment is to turn around and see MY own mistake, Other's mistake is also my mistake. Others are right even if they are wrong. i'm wrong even if i'm right. " - Master Chin Kung

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby Ratnagerald » Wed May 29, 2013 2:26 pm

Doubts about the Pure Land are natural for Bombu like ourselves. Just relax, say the Nembutsu and wait for Amida to gift you his faith!

NAMO AMIDA BU

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby sinweiy » Thu May 30, 2013 1:56 am

i posted an article but in chinese, regrading how Pureland's profound theory can be seen no different from Dzogchen theory.
http://sgforums.com/forums/2954/topics/469656
many people in the east are also intereted in Tibetan buddhism, not knowing Pureland's theory is as profound.
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"Enlightenment is to turn around and see MY own mistake, Other's mistake is also my mistake. Others are right even if they are wrong. i'm wrong even if i'm right. " - Master Chin Kung

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby Arjan Dirkse » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:35 am

I'm a big doubter, and this is to me why Pure Land seems to fit me so well. I am not fit for overly complicated Buddhism; if it's simple, dressed like me in simple layman's clothes, and with as little sacred texts, rituals and objects and hidden doctrines as possible, it's better for me. Pure Land represents that to me. I don't know how the Dharma will lead everyone to enlightenment; I don't know anything for sure. All I believe is that there is a saving grace which will come to whomever requests it, and that is the Infinite Light of Amida Buddha. To remind myself, Amida calls myself by its name.

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby Jiko » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:14 pm

Doubt will always arise in a mind that is full of blind passions, this is why all the pure land masters tried so hard to get everyone to just do it, recite the name with all your heart, ceaselessly, or as ceaseless as you can manage. When there is only Amida in your mind and on your lips you will no longer doubt, you will be certain of your attainment of birth in the blissful land.

I struggled with doubts for several years, but now, if a thought of doubt arises, I have one single response to it.........Namu Amida Bu. And believe me that doubt will leave you be, well at least till next time :lol:

Doubt is something that arises when you put to much time into study and not enough into practice, study cannot and never will remove doubt, only practice removes doubt. It is only natural to us that we grasp after knowledge thinking it will give us answers, it will not. The books are there to show you what to do and understand what you are doing, after that, lock that book away, or better still give it to another.

Honen Shonin said, "once a scholar is born, a man forgets the Nembutsu" and that we should " become like the unlettered, ignorant of even a single character" because there is no settled heart/mind found in those things, only in the Nembutsu itself will you find your answers and come face to face with Amida Buddha.

Do not let the poison of doubt have a chance to take hold of your minds, when you see it come after you, run straight to the Buddha in his name until that doubt has give up. It has to be this way, it cannot be rationalized, take the leap of faith and recite the name like you got nothing to lose and then you will know for yourself what the books are teaching.

Gassho

Namu Amida Bu

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby LastLegend » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:50 pm

Don't doubt your own Buddha mind. Use your awareness to illuminate within. Then you will not doubt Pure Land.

Your doubt has nothing to do with Amitabha or Pure Land. It comes from within your mind.
NAMO AMITABHA
NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby Northern Light » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:31 pm

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My lifetime outlook: "...just take the good.... there is always bad..... but just take the good". :)

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby Northern Light » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:33 pm

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Nichiren Buddhist.
My lifetime outlook: "...just take the good.... there is always bad..... but just take the good". :)

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby Osho » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:17 am

Totally agree.
More study = more confusion plus it helps if you are a studious person and not everyone is.
Anyone can chant.
More about Mindfulness here
http://bemindful.co.uk/

" A Zen master's life is one continuous mistake."
(Dogen).

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby theanarchist » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:36 am

There are prayers in Tibetan buddhism to be reborn in the pure lands. There is even a whole cycle of practices to transfer one's consciousness (or that of someone else) to a pure land during the process of death.

If pure lands exist and it's possible to be reborn there, then why not aspire for it, if you currently don't feel up to the job of "human bodhisattva on earth".

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

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Re: Doubts about Pure land

Postby theanarchist » Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:39 pm

I can't. I come from a Tibetan buddhism background (where prayers and practices to be reborn in a pure land are also common, but not the main practice for most practitioners)

And in the tantric literature you find teachings about pure lands / the transcendent buddhas and bodhisattvas. It's also essential for tantric practice as a pure land is very closely related to the mandala of an enlightened meditation deity. Both are manifested from the enlightened mind and aspiration of a buddha.

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