Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

Postby Astus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:43 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

Postby Astus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:16 pm

It seems to me that Caodong as a distinct form of teaching in China has disappeared around the 13th century, if it ever really existed at all. As for anyone interested in Dogen's teachings, I have no information, maybe there are a few.
Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

Postby Huifeng » Wed May 01, 2013 1:14 am

Up until this century, probably nobody in China had a clue who Dogen was. Some scholars write a bit about him now. Due to material from Zen in English now being translated into Chinese, some people will know a bit about him. But, I've never heard of any meditation specialists in China / Taiwan who really try to follow some kind of idea about what Dogen taught meditation wise. Even Master Rujing is rather an unknown figure, there being a large number of other more significant masters that attract much more attention.

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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

Postby Huifeng » Wed May 01, 2013 4:16 am

How many is "many"?


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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

Postby Astus » Wed May 01, 2013 9:40 am

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

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Re: Caodong lineage in China after Rujing?

Postby MalaBeads » Sat May 11, 2013 2:20 pm

I know the title of this thread is 'Caodong lineage in China after Rujing' but I'd add something here. Even in Japan, Dogen's teachings were forgotten until recently when they have been revived. It is said, in a proverbial way, that they were forgotten for 'five hundred years'.
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