Ananda's enlightenment

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Stiphan
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Ananda's enlightenment

Postby Stiphan » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:32 am

It's interesting to note that Ananda, the Buddha's personal attendant for many years, one of his chief disciples and a very wise monk, attained Nibbana only after the Buddha's passing away, yet so many 'less senior' disciples attained Nibbana after just hearing a little Dhamma (e.g. the 1000 monks in the Fire Sermon).

So why did it take him so long to attain Arahantship compared with thousands other monks who attained Arahantship much faster than him, when he was master of the discources?

I remember once researching that question and the reason, the writer wrote, was that Ananda didn't have much time to develop his own practice, since he was very busy attending to the Buddha and committing to memory a vast amount of Dhamma.

Anyway, just a question out of curiosity. The most important thing is, of course, that he did attain Nibbana and was thus able to attend the First council.

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby Ben » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:38 am

Hi Stefan
We're all at different points on the path and progress at different rates. It is the result of our past kamma and our paramis.
And I am sure it was the same for Venerable Ananda and the other chief disciples of the Buddha as well.
kind regards,

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby bodom » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:55 pm

It just goes to show that a head full of knowledge is not the same as wisdom.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby cooran » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:51 pm

Hello all,

Without the marvellous ‘head full of knowledge’’ of the Buddha’s chief attendant, Ananda, there would be no Buddhism today. It is Ananda who is responsible for all of us having access to the Buddha’s teachings. His agreement to become the Buddha’s attendant included never missing a teaching, and, that, if he did, the Buddha would repeat that teaching to him in private.

Ananda was so exhaustingly busy attending to the everyday needs of the Buddha and others to concentrate on his own advancement in the Dhamma. He always put himself last.
When he did finally concentrate on his own spiritual advancement, he achieved arahantship within a day.

Ananda – Guardian of the Dhamma
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el273.html

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby manas » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:16 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby Zom » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:45 pm

Everything depends of kamma. Guess, Ven. Ananda's kamma brought result quite late. It had to be that way. I think there was no possibility for him to quickly achieve the result whenever he wants.

"In the same way, there are these three urgent duties of a monk. Which three? The undertaking of heightened virtue, the undertaking of heightened mind, the undertaking of heightened discernment. These are the three urgent duties of a monk. Now, that monk does not have the power or might [to say:] 'May my mind be released from fermentations through lack of clinging/sustenance today or tomorrow or the next day.' But when the time has come, his mind is released from fermentations through lack of clinging/sustenance.

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby whynotme » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:44 am

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Re: Ananda's enlightenment

Postby Bankei » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:25 am

See a good article on this topic

Banks Findly, Ellison
1992
Ananda's Hinderance: Faith (Saddha) in Early Buddhism.
Journal of Indian Philosophy, Vol 15/4
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