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Learning Dhamma

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Learning Dhamma

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby Ben » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:27 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby Upasaka » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:46 pm

The heart of the path is quite easy. There’s no need to explain anything at length. Let go of love and hate and let things be. That’s all that I do in my own practice.

- Ajahn Chah -

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby Ben » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:32 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby Ben » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:28 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Learning Dhamma

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby Prasadachitta » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:16 am

Hi all,

I think right view can simply be a recognition of the value in going beyond greed hatred and delusion as well as the acceptance that it is possible and has been achieved. This recognition is given expression by faith in the Buddha or other guide on the path. It need not in my opinion be any more complicated than that. In the Suttas there are many descriptions of the process leading to liberation and they are similar but certainly not monolithic. The Canki sutta for example describes the search for truth as starting with finding a person who is not mired in greed hatred and delusion. I would call this right view. A non intellectual right view. It is my opinion that practice and progress on the path from that point on could be limited to the right efforts and a continuing recognition of their value in actual experience. All the tweaking of view arises when our assumptions and speculations get in the way. The path becomes more complicated because we tend to be complicated. Since the vast majority of people(including me) have a whole spectrum of complications we generally need a more nuanced description of practice.

Practice well

Prasadachitta
"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby ground » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:22 am

If "learning" is conceived of as "separated from practice" then there will be wrong learning. While learning the already learned has to be applied to the learning otherwise it is wrong learning.
Wrong learning necessarily leads to wrong views.

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Re: Learning Dhamma

Postby ground » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:30 am

E.g. if one has learned that all views arise from the clinging aggregates and later one learns something else and thereby cultivates asserting views like "this is like {that} but it is definitely not like {this}" then this is wrong learning and the views arising from this are wrong views.

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