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Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby buddhaflower » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:50 pm

Dear Members,

I went out walking meditation at 5 AM, the half moon shone brightly in the starry-sky..I loved chanting before the dawn....
Texas weather is so wonderful right now.

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:heart: Direct Knowing of Perception :heart:
[Presented by Dr.Tep Sastri @ SD/JTN]


Our Greatest Teacher, the Buddha, said in Maha-Satipatthana Sutta that contacts, perceptions, and intentions (arising at the six bases: aayatana) are where craving arises and dwells. And in the Upakkilesa Samyutta, it is said that desire-passions (chanda raaga) with regard to contact, perception, and intention are defilements of the mind; they are defilements of awareness.

"When, with regard to these six bases, the defilements of awareness are abandoned, then the mind is inclined to renunciation. The mind fostered by renunciation feels malleable for the direct knowing of those qualities worth realizing." Such direct knowing of the qualities worth realizing, e.g. dispassion, is the seeing and knowing of the Noble Truths.

Taking perception as an example, the seven dhammas (satta-thaana) to be directly known are:
1) the perception itself, 2) its origination, 3) its cessation, 4) the path of practice for its cessation, 5) its allure, 6) its drawback or danger, and 7) its escape.

"For any priests or contemplatives who by directly knowing perception in this way, directly knowing the origination of perception in this way, directly knowing the cessation of perception in this way, directly knowing the path of practice leading to the cessation of perception in this way, directly knowing the allure of perception in this way, directly knowing the drawback of perception in this way, directly knowing the escape from perception in this way, are practicing for disenchantment, dispassion, cessation with regard to perception--they are practicing rightly."
[SN 22.57 : Sattatthana Sutta]

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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby Nosta » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:30 pm

Many thanks for the nice reading :namaste:
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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby bub » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:05 pm

:good: QUESTION: Is direct knowing perfect perception or no perception of reality? Perception is how we interpret reality and put names on things? :thanks:
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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby buddhaflower » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:53 pm

Nosta wrote:Many thanks for the nice reading :namaste:

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Thank you for reading my post :namaste:

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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby Sherab Dorje » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:20 pm

bub wrote::good: QUESTION: Is direct knowing perfect perception or no perception of reality?
Depends on how you define reality.
Perception is how we interpret reality and put names on things? :thanks:
If you replaced the term "reality" with the word "phenomena" then you are getting real close to the way that conventional perception actually functions.
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
Naropa - Summary of the View from The Eight Doha Treasures
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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby buddhaflower » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:29 am

bub wrote::good: QUESTION: Is direct knowing perfect perception or no perception of reality? Perception is how we interpret reality and put names on things? :thanks:

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Dear Bub,

Sorry I forget to post this reply from Tep(the presenter)...here...

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From Tep:

There are two questions I found on the page.

QUESTION 1: Is direct knowing perfect perception or no perception of reality?

Answer: Direct knowing of perception in seven bases actually is "experiential"
knowing of perception, the way it really is, knowing its origination &
cessation, knowing the path for its cessation, knowing its allure & drawback,
and knowing its escape. Indeed, it is knowing everything about perception -- so
you may say it is perfect/true knowing of the perception.

More information about direct knowing & direct knowledge can be found at this
Google group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en& ... tknowledge

QUESTION 2: Perception is how we interpret reality and put names on things?

Answer: That's a good question. Technically, perception experiences the same
object as the citta (consciousness) it accompanies, but it performs its own
task, namely, it 'perceives' or 'recognizes' the object, and it also 'marks' it
so that the object can be recognized again. So you see that perception involves
memorizing. Further, all perceptions (at the six sense doors) have the
characteristic of noting the corresponding sense objects.

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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby dude » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:24 pm

Perception of the supra mundane is superior to perception of the mundane.
Perception of infinite space is superior to that.
Perception of emptiness is superior to perception of infinite space.
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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby Jnana » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:54 pm

dude wrote:Perception of the supra mundane is superior to perception of the mundane.
Perception of infinite space is superior to that.

No, it isn't. The perception of infinite space is a worldly perception attainment.
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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby LastLegend » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:22 pm

So what is the practice?
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Re: Direct Knowing of Perception

Postby dude » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:28 pm

LastLegend wrote:So what is the practice?


Practice of what?
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