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Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby plwk » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:59 pm

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby plwk » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:00 pm

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:10 pm

For what it's worth: OM MANI PEME HUNG
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby kirtu » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:59 pm

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Sherab Dorje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:17 am

From the film director Ken Loach:

Margaret Thatcher was the most divisive and destructive Prime Minister of modern times. Mass Unemployment, factory closures, communities destroyed – this is her legacy. She was a fighter and her enemy was the British working class. Her victories were aided by the politically corrupt leaders of the Labour Party and of many Trades Unions. It is because of policies begun by her that we are in this mess today. Other prime ministers have followed her path, notably Tony Blair. She was the organ grinder, he was the monkey. Remember she called Mandela a terrorist and took tea with the torturer and murderer Pinochet. How should we honour her? Let’s privatise her funeral. Put it out to competitive tender and accept the cheapest bid. It’s what she would have wanted!
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Postby Namgyal » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:46 am

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RIP Baroness Thatcher of Kestevan.
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Simon E. » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:34 pm

As always, things were far more complex than that.
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Jikan » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:56 pm

Simon E. wrote:As always, things were far more complex than that.


True: she didn't just take tea with Pinochet. She also implemented his economic and social policies in Britain. ("There is no such thing as society" is itself a social policy.) David Harvey's Brief History of Neoliberalism gives much of this history in an accessible summary form.

I wish Ms. Thatcher liberation from the six realms. May she and all beings connected to her in any way attain liberation from all suffering and causes of suffering.
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby kirtu » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:34 pm

gregkavarnos wrote:
Remember she called Mandela a terrorist and took tea with the torturer and murderer Pinochet.


Well, I would hope we could pray for her but continue to bring attention to her devastating policies that were as bad as Lenin in many ways.

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Simon E. » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:00 pm

Jikan wrote:
Simon E. wrote:As always, things were far more complex than that.


True: she didn't just take tea with Pinochet. She also implemented his economic and social policies in Britain. ("There is no such thing as society" is itself a social policy.) David Harvey's Brief History of Neoliberalism gives much of this history in an accessible summary form.

I wish Ms. Thatcher liberation from the six realms. May she and all beings connected to her in any way attain liberation from all suffering and causes of suffering.

Today the BBC were garnering reactions from around the UK.
Generally speaking, the South East is in mourning. The North is celebrating.
She did great harm...but her rise to power was one side of a pretty dismal coin.
She made Scargill. Scargill made her.
As Sting sang ' there is no political solution '...And as if to underline the point, Thatchers reign gave way to that of the " Socialist " Blair and to the whole Iraq debacle.
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Sherab Dorje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:39 pm

True: she didn't just take tea with Pinochet. She also implemented his economic and social policies in Britain.
And let's not forget the Falklands war.
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby kirtu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:04 am

gregkavarnos wrote:And let's not forget the Falklands war.


Well that did lead to the downfall of the Videla dictatorship ...

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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby Sherab Dorje » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:05 am

I don't think that was the reasoning behind the war, more like a positive, unforseen, but basically irrelevant in the scheme of things, outcome.
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Re: Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher

Postby etinin » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:39 pm

All I can have for her is compassion. Looking at it, she must have been really mentally ill.
She was, like all samsaric beings, trying to be happy, but look at what she got. When she died, not even her sons were with her.

It is quite sad how propaganda based on a few dictatorial stalinist governments were enough to convince the masses that the left is evil and the right is good and allowed people like Tatcher to rise.

To quote Pink Floyd:

What have we done, Maggie what have we done?
What have we done to England?
Should we shout, should we scream
"What happened to the post war dream?"
Oh Maggie, Maggie what have we done?
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