Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Postby Grigoris » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:25 pm

I am not disputing what Rinpoche says, what I am discussing is the concept of "live", especially when applied to web casts.

Webcasts are a medium, a medium that has a stronger illusion of intimacy and directness than, say, the written medium, but it is still a medium nonetheless.
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Postby muni » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:55 pm

"Beyond any kind of limitations". Namkhay Norbu Rinpoche

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Postby MalaBeads » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:10 pm

Over time, i have found best to not try and turn any statement made by any teacher into an absolute. And to not compare what a teacher says to one student to what he/she says to another student. In fact, i have heard a Tibetan teacher say exactly that. ChNN teaches this in many ways.

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Postby Dronma » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:45 pm

It is not that teachers are saying one thing to a student and the opposite thing to somebody else. It is that students due to ignorance, we are not able to comprehend correctly the words of the teacher, and sometimes we rely up on imaginary interpretations.
ChNNR is saying often not to run behind our fantasies.
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Postby heart » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:18 pm

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Postby heart » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:21 pm

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Postby MalaBeads » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:17 pm

I happen to agree that there is a significant difference between listening to Rinpoche give a lung live on webcast and listening to the replay. Anyone who has ever attended a live music performance and then listened to the CD must know this is true.

I don't know the proper words to use (seems not quite correct to say there is a difference in vibration and/or energy but those words seem closest). Something essential seems to happen to sound when it is on tape vs when it is live. Something gets lost on tape. It is not just about time.

Perhaps not everyone agrees with this - and honestly i cant remember hearing Rinpoche say anything specific about it (i dont want to pull that rabbit out of my hat, so to speak) What I am saying is just from my own experience of being at a live music performance vs listening to a CD. Something gets lost. It's not the same.

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Postby Grigoris » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:08 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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Postby heart » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:03 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Postby DGA » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:20 pm

I first got involved in Dzogchen Community when direct introduction was still given globally by a DVD system. Everyone turned on their TVs, plugged in the video, hit play at precisely the same time, and thus direct introduction was given. It was explained to me that it has everything to do with timing and intention: since everyone is involved and cooperating at the same time, with the intention to collaborate, then there are no problems.

This principle surely carries over into this discussion about the timing or mistiming or whatever of the webcasts.

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Postby Grigoris » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:05 pm

DVD transmissions??? Does it work with cassetes and vinyl too? :tongue: What about blue ray?
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Postby Grigoris » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:25 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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