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Hell Beings

Postby Motova » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:45 pm

What exactly are the beings who supposedly torture those unfortunate beings who are born into the realms of Hell? Is that a "role" anyone can be born into? Do they enjoy torturing people? If a hell being enjoys killing endless beings in Hell, then will they be reborn to suffer the same torture they inflicted?

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Re: Hell Beings

Postby randomseb » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:56 pm

Are they perhaps, emanations of your own mind, a sort of personification of the neuroses you build up and carry along with you where ever you go like a huge mountain on your back?

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Postby Grigoris » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:18 pm

Where exactly is that said?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Postby KathyLauren » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:01 pm

Hell, like all of samsara, is a product of your mind's delusion. Your hell is yours alone.

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Postby Johnny Dangerous » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:03 pm

Mythology is to truth what notation and theory is to music, a way of describing truth. The notes themselves h ave no meaning though outside the context of describing music. They definitely aren't music itself.
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Postby Konchog1 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:24 am

They're creations of your own mind. There is traditional reasoning for it, but I forgot.

Hopefully, someone else remembers.
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Re: Hell Beings

Postby Alfredo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:33 am

They're ectoplasmic demons, made from semen ejaculated by hanged men. (Wait, no, that's incubi.)

The worst fate in hell is reserved for masochists, who will cry "Beat me! Beat me!" And the demons will answer, "No!"
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Re: Hell Beings

Postby treefairy » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:12 am

well, if i remember correctly, one is faced with their wrongs upon hitting the consciousness field in chikai, where you become aware of all. Then based on that, if you did something terribly wrong, you would probably condemn yourself to something terrible.......

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Re: Hell Beings

Postby Grigoris » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:24 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Hell Beings

Postby Nicholas Weeks » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:37 am

Did not read this all - too scary. But the Hell Wardens are projections from the minds of those being tortured. Sort of a subconscious knowledge of wrongs done and suffering due.

http://www.khandro.net/doctrine_hells.htm
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25


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