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1000 Bhikkhunis in the World

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Re: 1000 Bhikkhunis in the World

Postby saccaparami » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:46 pm

Thank you Peter for the clarification.

The so called "ordinations" are illegal according to the Thai and Burmese legal systems. They are illegitimate according to the official Theravada Sangha rulings and vinaya exegesis. You can find a lot of wrong information on the net, e.g. David Snyder's Dhammawiki is rife with manipulative and activist disinformation on this topic.

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Authority only exists to the extent that one imposes it on ones self.
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Re: 1000 Bhikkhunis in the World

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:20 pm

Keep in mind that while they may have a Dharmagupta ordination lineage, they may practice the Dhamma in terms of the Theravada.

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Re: 1000 Bhikkhunis in the World

Postby Bankei » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:41 am

Saccaparami

Do you accept that there are Theravada Bhikkhu in existance? What about the facts that the ordination lineage was broken numerous times throughout history. What about King Mongkut forming the Dhammayut because he thought the Mahanikaya ordination invalid?

By your standards there must be no Bhikkhu either.
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Re: 1000 Bhikkhunis in the World

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@Bankei
Bhikkhuni legitimacy is not derived from lineage authority. It's derived from the authority of The Dhamma, which is public property.
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Re: 1000 Bhikkhunis in the World

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:21 pm

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Good posts, DanielLion and Bankei.

In about 2,600 years into this dispensation it is unrealistic to assume that somewhere along the line there was never some break in the lineage for bhikkhus either. At some time along the line there certainly must have been some preceptor with a parajika offense or some other thing making him ineligible, but that does not change the conviction in the heart of the person receiving the ordination and the subsequent men or women who followed and their conviction and practice with the Dhamma.

By focusing too much on the letter and the rules the only outcome is less worthy people ordaining or perhaps no one being allowed to ordain and the sooner the end of the Dhamma / this dispensation.
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