Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby DGA » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:33 pm

The title of this thread is "Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption." This thread has been posted at a Buddhist discussion board. To me, this coincidence invites a question:

Is there any religious justification for vaccine avoidance in any tradition of Buddhism? Alternatively, have any recognized masters advised their students publicly to avoid vaccines?

Now turn that around: are there any plausible arguments in favor of routine and generalized vaccination programs for public health purposes on Buddhist premises? Have any Buddhist teachers or traditions advocated for general vaccination or promoted this practice in any way?

I'm asking because this seems like the most direct way to address the OP, and because a reorientation of the discussion seems in order.

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Postby DGA » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:24 pm

Thrasymachus,

I neglected to ask before: have you asked your teacher's opinion about vaccines and vaccination? Has your teacher made public comment on this issue?

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby DGA » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:58 pm

Here's the sort of example that may have some credibility among mainstream Buddhists on the topic of vaccination.


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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby Nemo » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:04 pm

A Bodhisattva with functioning critical faculties would get vaccinated for the benefit of other sentient beings. If I was hiring in a medical field I would not hire someone too stupid or selfish not to vet vaccinated.

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby justsit » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:26 pm

HH Dalai Lama - vaccination scars on right arm, likely smallpox/polio.

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby Nemo » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:03 pm

Widespread vaccination COMES FROM INDIA. It originated, not in Europe, but in the worship of Sitala(smallpox) Devi and is thousands of years old. Priests would dry the pus from the smallpox pustules and then put them in children's arms with a needle. It was taken up by Chinese traditional medicine after travelers saw the process. They would dry the exudate and blow it up people's noses with a tube to confer immunity. One would wonder if a beneficent Devi is why smallpox has been eradicated.

So any aspiring Bodhsattva wishing to not be a vector of sickness, suffering and death would be the first in line for vaccination.

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

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Welcome back Nemo. Always the straight talking sense maker. :-)

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby Simon E. » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:14 pm

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Re: Is it possible to get a religious vaccine exemption?

Postby Simon E. » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:42 pm

I believe so.
I am no masochist..I would not subject myself to unreasonable danger. But I recognise that it is not all about me and my 6 foot body and my 12 pints of blood and my skeleton and organs all of which are built from the elements of the universe and all of which will return to great nature.
My form is a changing series of events..I will not put it in unnecessary danger..I need it.
But neither will I treat it as a discrete entity to be kept pure and free from 'sinful' pollutants.
This body and that of everyone else every will be dead in a short few decades anyway.
" My heart's in the Highlands
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My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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