Jainarayan wrote:For ourselves it violates #2 of the Five Precepts: "I will not take that which is not given".
The dilemma: you don't know the person's motives for shoplifting, e.g. is it pathological, a compulsion; or desperation; or selfishness, the person wants it but just doesn't want to pay for it; the person feels entitled? You just don't know.
Do we have the right to make a judgment call and turn the person in, or do we err on the side of compassion not knowing the person's motive, and let it be on the person's karma? Are we complicit in the theft for turning a blind eye?
I did not see it, I was told by someone who did witness it, but did not "rat the person out". I said I really don't know what the answer is, and I'm of two minds about it. It's wrong to steal, but who knows what drove the person to do it?
Jainarayan wrote:...you don't know the person's motives for shoplifting, e.g. is it pathological, a compulsion; or desperation; or selfishness, the person wants it but just doesn't want to pay for it; the person feels entitled? You just don't know.
Knotty Veneer wrote:To my mind the right thing to do would be to asked the Shoplifter why they were doing it? If it appeared that it was out of real need, one could offer to help them so they didn't have to steal the item. If it was not of need, one could ask them to return it or threaten to inform the store.
Namgyal wrote:You don't know the full extent of the situation at all, so you just don't get involved.
You should be concerned with your own affairs, the affairs of others are not your concern (unless of course you are called Clark Kent). If you report him to staff you might find out that he is carrying a firearm, or perhaps you'll meet him again someday on a dark night. In this world it is easy enough to become entangled in others peoples troubles without volunteering for it.
Arkady and Boris Strugatsky wrote:Always and in all times there have been such men, absolutely pleased with their situation in society and therefore absolutely satisfied with the condition of that society.
The Final Circle of Paradise.
Henry Ibsen wrote:If you take the life lie from an average man, you take away his happiness as well.
Thrasymachus wrote:This is all like saying
I wonder how many of the rat finks in this thread care about ...
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