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Contradiction in between the Vinaya rules?

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Contradiction in between the Vinaya rules?

Postby yamaka » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:07 am

Dear all Dhamma friends,

I would like to seek for comments regarding the contradiction(maybe?) in the Vinaya rules as below:

From the Vinaya Pitaka>Paccittiya Kandam >Bhikkhuni Vibhango>Navamsikkhapadam

The rules was settle up by the Buddha because of the a group of six Nuns(Chabbaggiya Bhikkhuni) learning & practicing the **animal spell(Tiracchanavijja) and been ridiculed by the lay people, thus the Buddha had settled a rule for the Nuns(Bhikkhuni), those who learned, will be committed an offense(Paccittiya).

But in the end of the story, the Buddha had also allow those Nuns, who practicing the animal spell for the Protection(Guttatthaya Paritta), For keeping in mind, mad, first time to committed such offense are freed of such offense( Anapatti).

So, I am confused to the account of above, which we may learn those mantras,dharanis & others religion's spells are OK for our protection? :anjali:

**Animal spell, was a translation for Chinese, Pali dictionary was translated it to [Higher knowledge of the animal]

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Re: Contradiction in between the Vinaya rules?

Postby cooran » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:03 am

Hello Yamaka,

Are you able to find the exact story for us on-line?

Here is a link to the

Bhikkhunī Pāṭimokkha - The Bhikkhunīs' Code of Disciplinetranslated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... -pati.html

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Re: Contradiction in between the Vinaya rules?

Postby daverupa » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:35 am

Somewhere I read that instead of "animal", the Pali might be "lower, base" or something like that. Anyone know about that aspect in this context? I rather suspect a pun here.

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Re: Contradiction in between the Vinaya rules?

Postby santa100 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:17 pm

The Protection chant in Buddhism relies on powers coming from within, not the power from external sources. They're the powers of truth, metta, virtues, the respect for the Budhha, etc.. ( ref: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ction.html )

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Re: Contradiction in between the Vinaya rules?

Postby danialpaul1 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:51 pm

really ? how would you know about it ?
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