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Metta

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

Postby Ben » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:55 pm

Thanks Dave!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Metta

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"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Metta

Postby Kenshou » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:51 pm

Yes, and I think that sort of thinking is in part what PeterB is opposed to, probably appropriately. But I don't think that the implications of status and specialness are inherent in the concepts of the jhanas or the 4 stages of awakening and others. I have gotten the impression that he thinks they are, and that therefore they must be perturbations of the dhamma. But I think that's sort of a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I realize that this has nothing to do with Metta, sorry.

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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

Postby ground » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:16 am

I see. However whether "pervading" or "sending" it is just to produce a feeling of "unboundedness", a feeling of "not being limited in one's own sphere". Nothing is sent.

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Re: Metta

Postby Ben » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:18 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

Postby Ben » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:40 am

Nice post, Ming!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

Postby PeterB » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:36 am

Erm...no it doesnt. Please feel free to apply with consistency your literalistic view of Dhamma.
But if you make absolutist claims for that view then you will be challenged.
Neither you or I, short of enlightenment, are free to make claims of an absolutist nature.
The idea that this is a device that refers to the use of the imagination is a reading perfectly in accord with the text.
Just as the idea that somehow one penetrates the cosmos by psychic power can be read there if one desires.

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Re: Metta

Postby PeterB » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:39 am

I find this tendency to reification among the Russian members extremely interesting. I cant help wondering if it isnt the influence of Orthodoxy...whether Christian or Judaic.

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Re: Metta

Postby Zom » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:52 am

Peter, sorry, but as I see it, you are not one who is "fit to talk with".
Please read this: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

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Re: Metta

Postby PeterB » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:13 am

That strikes me as complete gibberish T Mingyur.

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Re: Metta

Postby ground » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:15 am

:shrug:

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Re: Metta

Postby ground » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:24 am

Language is meant to build bridges (metaphorically). Language is just that. It is expression of experience which always is exclusively individual. Even if language is understood the experiential origin stays individual. And if it is not understood it makes no difference regarding the origin.

Actually I don't know what Zom has in mind. So I tried to build a bridge. Maybe I failed due to linguistic incapability. Never mind.


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