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Postby lobster » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:13 pm

Rather than worrying about fashion, decided to do their meditation course . . .
Now on week 2, so far I have no fault with it. If they demand wearing bedsheets, saris or similar, then my sartorial attachments may be tested . . . dharma first, fancy dress optional . . .

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Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?

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Postby Kunga » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:36 am

The Aro sangha come out to Boudha on group pilgrimage from time to time and, I must say, they seem very normal, cheerful, kind and relaxed people. This is in contradistinction to many of the 'regular' dharma folk, belonging to some of the big lineages, who either seem to be hyper-pious, clutching their malas with adamantine claws, pursed lips and faraway eyes as they strut meaningfully around the stupa, avoiding the poor and other worldly distractions; or armchair types who have discussions in coffee houses about what empowerments they've received, what amazing spiritual experiences and teachers they have and what restricted texts they possess.

Give me an Aro person any day.

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Postby Grigoris » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:39 am

So, what you are saying, is that an organisation should be judged by the degree to which it's members conform to your personal list of positive personality attributes?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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Postby lobster » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:27 pm

. . . well the good aro meditation advice continues . . .

Whatever happens in meditation—whether good or bad, ordinary or peculiar—simply experience it. Attempting to ascertain meaning is counter-productive. Do not judge thoughts, or the quality of meditation. Adopt this attitude: During meditation there are no profound or good thoughts. There are no unworthy or bad thoughts. There are no blissful or good meditation sessions. There are no boring, grumpy, miserable or bad meditation sessions. Allow good experiences to pass as they will. Allow bad experiences to persist as they will. Observe clearly the neutral experiences which you might prefer to ignore as uninteresting.

They are also informing me of classes, one to ones and no doubt will try selling books and fashion Accessories any day . . . I am thinking of something that hints at 'meditative exotica with a hint of carefree Zen' - perhaps in purple . . . or maybe I will sit this one out . . . :popcorn:

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:popcorn:
Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?

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"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Postby Yudron » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:01 pm

I think that is a very balanced perspective that your lama has, Martin, and similar from what I have heard from other Tibetan lamas. Good people, questionable lineage.
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Re: On Aro gTér

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" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?

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Postby Simon E. » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:11 pm

Really ?
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: On Aro gTér

Postby byamspa » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:36 pm

Phenomenon, vast as space, dharmata is your base, arising and falling like ocean tide cycles, why do i cling to your illusion of unceasing changlessness?

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Re: On Aro gTér

Postby conebeckham » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:42 pm

Well....

If the Aro folks say their terma came from Guru Rinpoche, and was hidden as Gongter, to be "revealed" only when the time was right, who gets to decide whether that is "traceable back to Guru Rinpoche" himself, or not?


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It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: On Aro gTér

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:37 am

Apologies if I missed something- are they claiming to be tertons? I thought they just say they are teaching Yeshe Tsogyal's dzogchen. I may not be totally clear on what is and what is not a terma.


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