YOU CANNOT POST. OUR WEB HOSTING COMPANY DECIDED TO MOVE THE SERVER TO ANOTHER LOCATION. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN VIEW THIS VERSION WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW POSTING AND WILL NOT SAVE ANYTHING YOU DO ONCE THE OTHER SERVER GOES ONLINE.

Why one meal a day? - Page 7 - Dhamma Wheel

Why one meal a day?

A place to discuss health and fitness, healthy diets. A fit body makes for a fit mind.
User avatar
daverupa
Posts: 5980
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby daverupa » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:07 pm

might be of interest with respect to sleeping habits. It's certainly not scientifically rigorous, but not much information on sleep is.

Discussion of its various points will likely warrant another thread; it is here simply as a reference.

:heart:

PeterB
Posts: 3909
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby PeterB » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:28 pm


chownah
Posts: 6161
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:19 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby chownah » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:43 pm

I don't think that not eating after mid-day and avoiding lofty beds are precepts...I think they are just rules for monks. I'm not saying that they are good or bad ideas but I think with respect to the Buddha's teachings they are just rules for monks .
chownah

PeterB
Posts: 3909
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby PeterB » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:00 pm

They are precepts if you take the Eight Precepts...commonly done on retreats. And Uposatha Days.
What is not common is an attempt by lay people to live by the Eight precepts on a permanent basis.
Last edited by PeterB on Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:21 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby ground » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:13 pm

Instead of "jumping right into it" renunciation of all tastes one uses to delight in may be a good practice approach leading to "Not eating after mid-day".


kind regards

User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby ground » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:21 pm


PeterB
Posts: 3909
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby PeterB » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:23 pm

Tell that to the inhabitants of Somalia....
More mechanistic twaddle.

User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby ground » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:27 pm


PeterB
Posts: 3909
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby PeterB » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:38 pm

Samsara is without end anyway....gravity does not cease to exist because of the Wright brothers.
Dhamma gives us a choice, It dies not abolish samsara.

User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby ground » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:51 pm

There is no alternative to renunciation regardless of what people being proud of having met many teachers may say.
So better to rely on the Buddha's words than on the words of proud ones.

Kind regards

User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby ground » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:00 pm


User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby ground » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:14 pm


User avatar
appicchato
Posts: 1603
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:47 am
Location: Bridge on the River Kwae

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby appicchato » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:15 pm

There we go...the two quotes of the Buddha given by TMingyur (thank you) would/could/should seem to be the way to go...this wanderer does... :zzz: :pig:

alan
Posts: 2812
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:14 am
Location: Miramar beach, Fl.

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby alan » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:40 am

Sorry to disappoint you once again, my dear monk. Maybe one of these days you will state an opinion, instead of gritting your teeth in vain disapproval.
Friends: the best bed is the one that allows you the most restful sleep, so that you can awaken refreshed and ready to study. Any other considerations about beds is, in my opinion, a total waste of time. This absurd preoccupation with rules is completely pointless. Don't lose sleep over it!

alan
Posts: 2812
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:14 am
Location: Miramar beach, Fl.

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby alan » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:00 am

As for meals, you should eat when you are hungry. Yes, digesting meals requires energy. That is a good reason to do it 3 or 4 times a day, in small portions, rather than once only. That way, you burn energy more efficiently.
Going to bed hungry, and sleeping poorly, does not make you more aware. It does not make you a better student. What does it do, besides making you feel morally superior?

jackson
Posts: 245
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:40 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby jackson » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:05 am

Greetings Alan,
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but out of curiosity have you ever undertaken either of these precepts, and if so for how long?
Respectfully,
Jackson
"The heart of the path is quite easy. There’s no need to explain anything at length. Let go of love and hate and let things be. That’s all that I do in my own practice." - Ajahn Chah

alan
Posts: 2812
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:14 am
Location: Miramar beach, Fl.

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby alan » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:22 am

Not relevant.
Accept or reject what I'm saying based upon reason. If I told you I lived in a cave in India for 20 years, would it influence your judgement?

jackson
Posts: 245
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:40 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby jackson » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:16 am

Greetings Alan,
I'd put more weight in your reasoning if it came from experience, which to me makes it relevant. You make claims that not sleeping on a high bed leads to poor sleep and feelings of moral superiority and yet in my experience it led to lighter sleep, not poor, and certainly I was not lying around thinking "oh those high-bedders, wasting their lives away!" :) I have comparatively little experience regarding not eating after noon, but the experience I have has indeed made me more aware of just how big a part food plays in daily life, and how attached I am to fulfilling desire. Anyway, I'd like to kindly suggest that if you've never tried keeping the eight precepts then give it a try for a day, perhaps your opinion wouldn't change, or perhaps you'd see that there are indeed numerous benefits that outweigh any discomfort one may experience.
Best wishes, :smile:
Jackson
"The heart of the path is quite easy. There’s no need to explain anything at length. Let go of love and hate and let things be. That’s all that I do in my own practice." - Ajahn Chah

PeterB
Posts: 3909
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 pm

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby PeterB » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:47 am

I have observed the Eight Precepts on numerous occasions. Mostly while on Retreat. And found them useful. Both in combating sloth and in maintaining awareness.
But the idea of living like that permanently as well as working a ( frequently ) 55-60 hour week and having a large and demanding family is unthinkable, for me at least.
I am not a monk . Nor do I have any aspirations to be a monk or an imitation monk.
My life throws up all the disciplines I need.
If I just sat around all day being wise online I guess I might have the energy to recommend impractical lifestyles to all and sundry.

Nyana
Posts: 2233
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:56 am

Re: Precepts: Not eating after mid-day / Avoiding lofty beds

Postby Nyana » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:59 am



Return to “Wellness, Diet & Fitness”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

Google Saffron, Theravada Search Engine