Any stream-enterer here?

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"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Postby m0rl0ck » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:24 am

Actually we are probably going about this bass ackwards. Since stream enterers are probably naturally modest and not prone to proclaim their attianment because of the lack of self view thing, we just need to start a thread asking everyone who isnt to post in it.

Then all we need to do is figure out who of the regulars is missing. :)

Ill leave it to someone else to start such a thread, myself, im too modest :lol:
“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Any stream-enterer here?

Postby PeterB » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:36 am

I am not a stream winner or once returner.
Whats more I dont think they exist.
I think that is an indicator of the sclerosis and institutionalisation that already at an early stage was inevitable in any human organisation and which results in a systematic heirachy .
It reduces the Dhamma to a cattle show with different coloured rosettes... :smile:

" Dont be a Bodhisattva, dont be an Arahant...dont be anything. As long as you are anything you will suffer. "


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Re: Any stream-enterer here?

Postby BuddhaKurt » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:15 am

Yes, and it is a good question. But ultimately, aren't you confronted with the hindrance of uncertainty, specifically in the Dhamma? Everything the Buddha taught is completely factual, as I have witnessed for myself* in the here and now. You will know when you are stream-entered, and it is entirely up to you if you want to share it with others. Have a great day! (okay sharks, there's blood in the water!)

* There is no self. I refer to "myself" or "I" for the benefit of you, the reader, to comprehend it.

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Ben » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:34 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Any stream-enterer here?

Postby Aloka » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:35 pm

You can read about how Kurt "attained the ultimate goal of enlightenment " in the column on the right hand side of the welcome page on his website:




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Re: Any stream-enterer here?

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Any stream-enterer here?

Postby kirk5a » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:38 pm

I find the stream-entry evaluation question to be a rather frustrating and somewhat anxiety-inducing exercise. Whereas practicing the path to stream entry has immediate benefits in the here and now which are beyond speculation and uncertainty.
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Any stream-enterer here?

Postby daverupa » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:06 pm

Also, when someone comes along saying things about the TRUE YOU, it's worth laying the smack-down on it right away. It goes directly against "sabbe dhamma anatta", a central component of the Dhamma.

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