Getty back to the topic, I saw an interesting couple of articles published at Sweepingzen.com this week which I believe touch on the core issue of the Treeleaf controversy. The core issue is apparently that online sangha cannot be a substitute for in-person sangha, and I believe the articles posted by Jundo and Taigu demonstrate why. It can't be a substitute because with online communication we tend show an artificial version of ourselves. Indeed, one of the articles is literally titled "Unmasking" ( http://sweepingzen.com/sit-a-long-with-taigu-unmasking/
). In the video Taigu mentions how his response to recent events in his life caused a big stir in at Treeleaf. It would appear that he is not well known at Treeleaf. Only the online mask is known. Granted it's possible to present a mask in person, and indeed we probably all do to some degree, but by being around others in person we see infinitely more. We see reactions to the unexpected, everything, unfiltered. Online everything is measured and controlled, and any random elements are removed, so we show only what we want to show.
Very interesting, Shel, However, that is not the message of that talk by Taigu at all. In fact, it is the complete opposite.
I only listened to the first few minutes of the video so I don't know what it was about other than what was mentioned at the beginning. The contents of video were not what I was talking about. I was talking about the big stir that was caused in the Treeleaf community when they learned more about Taigu's real life. Like I said, it's like no one really knows him there, and that's not a surprise being that they only know him through the filter of digital technology, where everything that's show is controlled and measured. Little, if anything, unexpected happens through that media channel.
lived with some of the people with Katagiri Roshi for many years.
How well did you know Katagiri? If you did really know
him, did you abide all his activities?
Treeleaf is my first online experience with a Buddhist community, and I have to say it is one of the warmest, most connected, helpful groups I have ever associated with. I am rather quiet, but when I do need some question, Taigu and Jundo and the others in the community have been there. Over the last couple of years I have found the practice there very real, and Taigu and Jundo very powerful and down to earth teachers.
That's all very nice, Alan, and I'm glad for you. I clearly wasn't saying that the Treeleaf community is not warm or connected or helpful. Indeed I might be saying that that's all that they are, because that's all that they show through the controlled online medium. Life isn't always warm, connected or helpful. Hence the stir when the online group learned that life wasn't warm, connected or helpful to Taigu, in his real life.
Maybe that honesty and down to earth is what is confusing you, Shel.
You are suggesting that sensibility and honesty confuse me?