Daily Practice Commitments

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Daily Practice Commitments

Postby shel » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:36 pm

Wow, I've never been no-matter-what rigid about anything. I guess that I don't see the world so black and white, but as more fluid.

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Re: Treeleaf Sangha

Postby Grigoris » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:47 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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Re: Treeleaf Sangha

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Re: Treeleaf Sangha

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Re: Treeleaf Sangha

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Re: Treeleaf Sangha

Postby DGA » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:10 am

OK, I see what you mean shel.

I think it's good to stick rigorously to a daily practice regimen. If seated meditation is your practice, and you're able, then keep that commitment. Of course it would be foolish to keep that commitment at that if your kid is choking on something and no one else is around to save her skin (for instance).

I'm interested in the equation of sitting with meditation. I know that seated meditation is emphasized strongly in Soto Zen. But is sitting necessarily synonymous with meditation? It is possible to put one's body on the cushion, wear the proper accoutrement, maintain good posture... and daydream the whole session. I know, I've done it myself. It's also possible to practice meditation quite rigorously in many other postures.

The equation of the terms "meditation" and "Buddhism" or "Zen" (as though meditation is the totality of Buddhist practice) is a separate thing. I'm not sure of Treeleaf does this, but I've seen it in other Soto Zen contexts in the English-speaking world...

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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby ToddR » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:39 pm

I think a good point is the idea of the "four exhilarations". These are eating, sleeping, meditation, and taking care of the body. Like, no matter what, I eat everyday. This is a true statement for nearly all people :) People may not take care of their body everyday, but everyone's got to shower eventually. Once you get into a habit of it, meditation seems not like a committment but like a vital part of the day. This is why vajrayana is for students who are already steeped in practice.

If it feels like a burden, then don't take it on yourself. If you want the creditial of being a vajrayana practitioner, I would look into the motivation of that desire.
Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion, meditating deeply on Perfection of Wisdom, saw clearly that the five aspects of human existence are empty, and so released himself from suffering.

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Re: Treeleaf Sangha

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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby Grigoris » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:35 pm

I think you left out some 9's there somewhere. :tongue:
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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:40 pm

I think it's good to make yourself do something no matter what..in addition to the fact that you are simply doing it more, you are also learning a kind of persistence that makes things stick, the times when it's hardest to do a thing are the times when you are most likely to grow in it, in my experience.
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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby JKhedrup » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:29 pm

For me the daily practice commitments I took make sure that I do at least SOMETHING everyday. Without them I am sure there is a risk on days when I am lazy/busy that I wouldn't do anything at all, so I see the commitments as a valuable tool for direction in my life.

That being said, I made sure I took only a few daily recitation commitments that are very manageable.

I know practitioners who are in a state of panic every evening as they are worried about being able to finish their practice. I wonder if the sense of dread they describe is helpful for cultivation...

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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby Karma Dorje » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:33 pm

"Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour."
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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby Karma Dorje » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:37 pm

"Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour."
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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby Yudron » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:45 pm

Well, you can save the child, then practice.

Somedays I say to myself, "Yudron--you have a lot to do, maybe you should just skip formal practice today." Then, most of the time I examine what it is that I think is so important, and look at my text, think of my lama--and the the next thing you know, I'm doing the formal practice. But, in my tradition there are work-arounds -- substitutions that can be done in a couple of minutes off the cushion--for nearly everything. On those special days I set aside my desire for a lot of formal practice for the sake of others' needs.

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Re: Daily Practice Commitments

Postby Jainarayan » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:05 pm

Worthy, wise and virtuous: Who is energetic and not indolent, in misfortune unshaken,
flawless in manner and intelligent, such one will honor gain. - Digha Nikaya III 273


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