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Dhamma's View on Zodiac

Postby pelletboy » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:38 am

What's the Dhamma's view on Zodiac? In some scriptures they say that looking at the stars for luck is not effective for luck is its own luck. Then in the Jatakas it says that a Bodhisatta can be evil as when he was reborn as a thief because of his Zodiac.

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Re: Dhamma's View on Zodiac

Postby cooran » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:43 am

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Re: Dhamma's View on Zodiac

Postby pelletboy » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:48 pm

I'll try but I read about them long ago that I don't know where they are in the net anymore. The view about not trusting the stars is in Access to Insight I think. The other about zodiac being the cause of evil is in some site that has definitions for Buddhist terms.

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Re: Dhamma's View on Zodiac

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:42 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Dhamma's View on Zodiac

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Re: Dhamma's View on Zodiac

Postby alan » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:03 am

The Buddhist view on this issue is clear: believing in Zodiac is idiotically stupid.

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Re: Dhamma's View on Zodiac

Postby cooran » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:33 am

Hello pelletboy, all,

The Jataka stories are not Word of the Buddha (buddhavacana), only the Jataka Verses are.

Excerpt from a previous post in another thread: ....The Jatakas verses are part of the Sutta Pitaka (The Khuddaka Nikaya) of the Pali Canon ...... Jatakas were touched on in a discussion elsewhere, and Jim Anderson (Pali Scholar) supplied the following information there:

"The Jataka (jaataka.m) is part of the Tipitaka and occupies two volumes in print. It consists of verses uttered by the Buddha and would have been recited at the great rehearsals. The Jataka commentary (jaataka.t.thakathaa) which contains the stories that go with the verses take up 10 volumes in a Thai edition. It is traditionally ascribed to Buddhaghosa (as translator & editor). All the verses in the Jataka are also included in the Jataka commentary.

.... some people are under the impression that the Jataka stories are part of the Tipitaka but upon closer examination one will find that the stories in fact belong to the commentary. The Jataka proper is only made up of verses like in the Dhammapada."

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1202&start=0

So- in your quoted example – the only part that is buddhavacana is:
'The fool may watch for 'lucky days,'
Yet luck shall always miss;
’Tis luck itself is luck's own star.
What can mere stars achieve?''


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