Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

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Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby conebeckham » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:17 pm

Pema Karpo Translation Committee, Tony Duff's project, has a variety of dictionary software available.
http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=37098ed8b2e2378b573e5f249&id=0da0e79b3c&e=389d19d1c6

I've been pre-testing the Illuminator, for some time, on my iPhone and iPad, and it's now available, as are many of the other dictionaries and software above, for Apple ios. I'm finding the Illuminator to be a valuable tool, and a resource--and it's by far the easiest-to-use Tibetan dictionary I've enountered, and the most "practitioner-friendly," in my opinion. I've also been checking out the Chandra Das and Geshe Chodrak dictionaries. The former is the classic, and nice to have in an Online, hypertext-enabled version. The latter is new to me, but is one of the few (only? I don't know...) Tibetan-to-Tibetan dictionaries, and is an interesting read in it's own right.

I'd recommend the Illuminator unreservedly--it's the most helpful tool I've yet used for translating Tibetan.
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby JKhedrup » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:22 pm

I use the Illuminator when I want some background for the words I am looking up. Tony Duff really knows his dharma and often explains the contexts of words, sometimes even according to different points of view, which is very helpful.
But my favourite is still the Tibetan Translation Tool because I am lazy and like to translate entire sentence fragments at the same time.
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby conebeckham » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:32 pm

Haven't used that one, JKhedrup, but I'd like to check it out. I, too, am a lazy guy! :shrug:
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby JKhedrup » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:35 pm

Just google Tibetan Translator tool. It's shareware, the developers don't charge for it.

I did shell out for the Illuminator though and it was worth it, though I struggle over whether to purchase the extensive updates they release every now and then.
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Jinzang » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:02 am

The online version of the Tibetan to English Translation Tool
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby futerko » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:09 am

Jinzang wrote:The online version of the Tibetan to English Translation Tool
comes with a free virus!
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby udawa » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:45 am

futerko wrote:
Jinzang wrote:The online version of the Tibetan to English Translation Tool
comes with a free virus!


Seriously? The online version at thlib.org?
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby futerko » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:28 am

udawa wrote:
futerko wrote:
Jinzang wrote:The online version of the Tibetan to English Translation Tool
comes with a free virus!


Seriously? The online version at thlib.org?
Has a java exploit [type 1715], most virus checkers should pick it up.
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Salomon » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:18 pm

Yes virus alert for me with Avast.

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby JKhedrup » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:20 pm

Sorry I never had this problem previously, it must be recent. I am glad I downloaded it ages ago!
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby conebeckham » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:34 pm

JKhedrup wrote:I did shell out for the Illuminator though and it was worth it, though I struggle over whether to purchase the extensive updates they release every now and then.


I understand there was the option to buy a lifetime subscription of the Windows version. My understanding is also that the ios (Apple) version is lifetime, with Apple pushing updates through the iStore as they do for most Apps.
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Yudron » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:40 pm

We used the Rangjyung Yeshe dictionary in retreat, using a great little program called TibThob to search it. At that time I was running it on a partitioned Windows drive on my old Mac. Since I got a new Mac I am using Parallels to run Windows and TibThob no longer works. I havent figured out how to remedy the situation yet. I have the Illuminator, but I'm generally not as fond of it.

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby ratna » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:14 pm

Yudron wrote:We used the Rangjyung Yeshe dictionary in retreat, using a great little program called TibThob to search it. At that time I was running it on a partitioned Windows drive on my old Mac. Since I got a new Mac I am using Parallels to run Windows and TibThob no longer works. I havent figured out how to remedy the situation yet. I have the Illuminator, but I'm generally not as fond of it.


On the Mac, you can use the Sambhota Dictionary Search (http://www.nitartha.org/downloads.html).

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:22 pm

Not qualified to comment on translation obviously, but I find Lama Duff's own translations and books to be awesome.

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Yudron » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:34 pm

ratna wrote:
Yudron wrote:We used the Rangjyung Yeshe dictionary in retreat, using a great little program called TibThob to search it. At that time I was running it on a partitioned Windows drive on my old Mac. Since I got a new Mac I am using Parallels to run Windows and TibThob no longer works. I haven't figured out how to remedy the situation yet. I have the Illuminator, but I'm generally not as fond of it.


On the Mac, you can use the Sambhota Dictionary Search (http://www.nitartha.org/downloads.html).

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I just tried it. It's a PowerPC application and so does not work on recent Mac OS.

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby ratna » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:59 pm

Yudron wrote:
I just tried it. It's a PowerPC application and so does not work on recent Mac OS.


It works for me on Snow Leopard, using Rosetta software for running PowerPC apps. But this is not available for Lion (10.7) or later.

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Jinzang » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:33 am

Has a java exploit [type 1715], most virus checkers should pick it up


Unless I'm misunderstanding, wouldn't the problem be in the version of Java on your machines? That's where the code is running. Such exploits are a result of failures in sandboxing in Java.Are you saying the code on the site exploits such a failure?
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby futerko » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:52 am

Jinzang wrote:
Has a java exploit [type 1715], most virus checkers should pick it up


Unless I'm misunderstanding, wouldn't the problem be in the version of Java on your machines? That's where the code is running. Such exploits are a result of failures in sandboxing in Java.Are you saying the code on the site exploits such a failure?
I think so, but to be honest I'm not really sure how it works, I just do what the virus checker tells me.
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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby Yudron » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:18 am

ratna wrote:
Yudron wrote:
I just tried it. It's a PowerPC application and so does not work on recent Mac OS.


It works for me on Snow Leopard, using Rosetta software for running PowerPC apps. But this is not available for Lion (10.7) or later.


:(

I think I'll go back to trying to find a PC solution through Parallels. I really liked TibThob.

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Re: Tony Duff/Pema Karpo Dictionaries

Postby mañjughoṣamaṇi » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:03 am

I put together a small cocoa search app (very primitive) for using the Rangjung Yeshe, and a few other dictionaries (mahavyutpatti, yogacarabhumi, tshig mdzod chen mo) once I realized the nitartha tool was no longer updated. It needs a lot of work, but feel free to grab it here and take it for a spin:

http://mahabhusuku.org/files/LocchavaSearch.zip

If you want an exact match for "rtogs pa" at this point you would type in:

"rtogs pa -"

If you want to match anything starting with "rtogs pa" you would enter that.
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