JKhedrup wrote:I am just interested in how many members of our Mahayana forum have read the Pali Theravada scriptures. For myself, at the moment I don't have so much time but during vacation periods from translating I often find I turn to Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation of the Majjima Nikaya for spiritual nourishment. I find the style and presentation of the Pali Suttas beautiful,and developed a real appreciation for them during my time in Thailand.
I find them to be a great supplement to Lamrim teachings knowing which section to apply them to always yields more inspiration for practice. Ive got several of Bhikkhu Bodhi's Books they prove very helpful in exploring the base teachings of Buddha.
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I have some of Bhikkhu Bodhi's works on the Nikayas and am still waiting for the Khuddaka Nikaya... worth investing in his Nikaya series
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I have translated the Access to Insight Sutta on Kamma and Sunnatta into Greek and the BPS concise Milindapanha too. I have also translated other Sutta into Greek at the request of my lamas.
So I guess I have read (and continue to read) portions of the Pali Canon.
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
The range of topics addressed and the clarity and consistency of the early teachings is something quite special to my mind.
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"
--- Gandavyuha Sutra
JKhedrup wrote:I am just interested in how many members of our Mahayana forum have read the Pali Theravada scriptures...
I would like to admit that I had strong inner hindrances to read it. The language and the many repititions were like a mountain to climb for my mind - and so i always had something "more important" to do than reading.
But on the other hand i was very interested, what is comprised in the Palicanon. So luckily i found somebody who read and understood it well. He liked to explain and discuss many things - for him much work, but for me good luck.
I just read MN1, MN 4 and MN 121 in the translation of Kay Zumwinkel. For me it's better understandable when meditated and not read like a book.
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Here's a little example:
Impermanent, Suffering, Nonself
"Monks, form is impermanent. What is impermanent is suffering. What is suffering is nonself. What is nonself should be seen as it really is with correct wisdom thus: 'This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self'. When one sees this thus as it really is with correct wisdom, the mind becomes dispassionate and is liberated from the taints by nonclinging.
"Feeling is impermanent ..."
"Perception is impermanent ... "
"Volitional formations are impermanent ... "
"Consciousness is impermanent. What is suffering is nonself. What is nonself should be seen as it really is with correct wisdom thus: 'This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self'. When one sees this thus as it really is with correct wisdom, the mind becomes dispassionate and is liberated from the taints by nonclinging."
"If monks, a monk's mind has become dispassionate towards the form element, it is liberate from the taints by nonclinging. If his mind has become dispassionate toward the feeling element ... toward the perception element ... toward the volutional formations element ... toward the consciousness element, it is liberated from the taints by nonclinging.
"By being liberated, it is steady; by being steady, it is content; by being content, he is not agitated. Being unagitated, he personally enters Nibbana. He understands: "Destroyed is birth, the spiritual life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming back to any state of being."
(SN 22:45; III 44-45 is the text's reference #)
The original text repeats the entire paragraphs for each ... section, which makes it kind of strange to read.
Fully appreciate the emptiness
of all dharmas.
Then all minds are free
and all dusts evaporate
in the original brilliance
Clear and desireless,
the wind in the pines
and the moon in the water
are content in their elements.
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
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Of course I have not read anywhere near what many here have of any scripture.
The Mahayana scriptures are much more Aesthetically pleasing, the austerity and repetitiveness of Pali stuff can be difficult at times.
I am kind of glad it was my intro though, maybe it's just confirmation bias but I feel like looking into Mahayana and Vajrayana subsequently having the Pali Canon stuff as a base was very..anchoring I guess.
that lightnings garland, while on earth below, the peacocks dance with joy as
showers of rain, falling gently, approach.
-The Door Of Happiness
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?
2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.
3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.
4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.
1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"
I've read a lot of Access to Insight.
I ordered 5 of Bhikkhu Bodhi's translations, still waiting on 2 of them (I think Mahjima and Samyutta) - haven't started any of them yet.
Would like to have translations of the the Agamas.
My goal is to contextualize it by splitting it up into which disciple (or type of disciple) gets taught what, when.
JKhedrup wrote:I often find I turn to Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation of the Majjima Nikaya for spiritual nourishment.
I have read a fair number of the Pali suttas, including the book you mention. For the record, Bodhi didn't translate that, he edited and revised a translation by Nanamoli.
Yudron wrote:About ten years ago, Thannisaro Bhikkhu published out four volumes of Sutras called Handful of leaves, and his people would mail them to anyone for free! They are really beautiful and soothing. I was in retreat while I was reading them, and when I read about Buddha's cremation, I heard the crackling sound of a fire. I was in a house, and when I looked out front, the bushes in front of the house were on fire. For real!
Neat story. Actually, there are now 5 volumes, and they are still available for free, although shipping outside the US is not free:
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