oushi wrote:You have to ask.
jundo cohen wrote:I resigned (I was not banned, though it was rather mutual) from ZFI because I ran into trouble with the owners there who did not care for my critical style on certain topics
myozankodo wrote:Hi Shel,
As interesting as it is to discuss our study and praxis over at Treeleaf, there's nothing quite like jumping in. Are you based in North America? We have a retreat planned for there sometime in the months ahead. When the details are available, I can send on the info to you if you like. I'm sure you'd be welcome. All your many questions would be answered with regard to the Sangha by attending such a retreat.
But if you feel Treeleaf isn't for you. Well, no big deal. Each to their own … while respecting the other.
myozankodo wrote:Hi all,
I really am not concerned with what you think about Jundo. I’m also not concerned about your history with Jundo. That has nothing to do with me. I speak for myself, not Jundo.
(That said, in my experience, Jundo is fair-minded and, obviously, impassioned in discussion ... as are many of you, i'd wager).
Shel, you had some questions I’d be happy to try and answer.
I’ve never met Jundo in person. No. But I have met my teacher Taigu in person. Indeed, I was ordained by him at the end of a Sesshin held in Kortenborg, Belgium, in 2011. This ordination came after two years of preparation, including weekly, hour-long meetings on Skype. I think we must be talking of about 100 hours or more of face-to-face, student-teacher interaction in advance of ordination.
You also asked about Unsui training at Treeleaf. Well, much like elsewhere it involves study and practice. Study of the sutras. Practice of the forms. Immersion in the history of the Soto tradition. Also, work practice, engaged practice, and the like forms part of the training. All in all, it is a daily commitment ... not a fly-by-night affair.
My weekly hour of Dokusan continues with my teacher. Having received Jukai in the SFZC lineage, I decided that Dokusan twice a year with Paul Haller just wasn’t enough. I realised I’d have much more interaction with a teacher at Treeleaf. So, I sought out Taigu, with whom I identified. Indeed, some of the training (particularly in forms) happened in Belgium ... and will continue, both online and at our next retreat.
I know Jundo’s priests-in-training also have spent time practicing with him in Japan, as well as their interaction online. This is certainly true of Mongen, who did some training in a Japanese monetary with Jundo for a week or two a year or two ago.
So, although much of our interaction occurs online, it is complemented in other meetings. It’s really not that radical ... quite like any other Zen Sangha in North America or Europe, really.
Thanks for your questions Shel. Who do you practise with, and where? I’d be curious to learn of your own practise.
myozankodo wrote:Personally, I think people make very reductive, ill informed and generalised statements about what we do at Treeleaf. Like all reality, it is much more complex and rich than its caricature.
myozankodo wrote:Hi Shel,
You have many questions.
Should I refer to you as praxis or Shel?
myozankodo wrote:Ask me a specific question. I'll be happy to answer, if I can.
myozankodo wrote:a full and committed daily Zazen practice is a basic requirement ...
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