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MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta - Dhamma Wheel

MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

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MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

Postby jcsuperstar » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:14 pm

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

Postby BlackBird » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:05 am

Speaking in terms of putting into practise what we can learn from MN 75. Even in a state which is pleasurable, there is a clinging, a worry that this state might dissappear (which in fact it does) and will then be replaced by a state which is not the same, unpleasant, when compared to the state of pleasure.

We can see this in just about any kama tanha (desire for sense pleasure), even mundane things like conversation. If someone tells a particularly good joke, it's often followed by a period of uncomfortable silence. You have your momentary pleasure, but is it justified by the period of uncomfortable stress that follows?

I'm sure there are a lot of people here who understand this a lot better than I, because I'm just a beginner really, but it's interesting isn't it. Wonderful is the Dhamma, when we see the sublime truth is every thing we do.

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Re: MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:56 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

Postby Tex » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:47 pm

I really like this one. The leper simile is particularly striking.

I'm still not sure why Magandiya referred to Gotama, after seeing his bed, as "the destroyer of humanity" though?
"To reach beyond fear and danger we must sharpen and widen our vision. We have to pierce through the deceptions that lull us into a comfortable complacency, to take a straight look down into the depths of our existence, without turning away uneasily or running after distractions." -- Bhikkhu Bodhi

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus

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Re: MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

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Re: MN 75. Māgandiya Sutta

Postby Tex » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:15 pm

Ahh, okay. Thanks, Mike.
"To reach beyond fear and danger we must sharpen and widen our vision. We have to pierce through the deceptions that lull us into a comfortable complacency, to take a straight look down into the depths of our existence, without turning away uneasily or running after distractions." -- Bhikkhu Bodhi

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus


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