Linjis teachings overlooked

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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby greentara » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:18 am

Astus, "Or is it still perceiving and acting but like a lunatic who can't understand anything that happens" How do you know a lunatic can't understand anything? Are you saying this in the most conventional sense? A 'lunatic' may see things differently or have altered perceptions but 'can't understand anything' thats hard to believe. Maybe our great grandparents would have considered us abnormal sitting for hours in front of TV starring vacantly, we sit in front of our computers, our flickering screens. Yet we are not lunatics, perhaps more isolated, we are certainly not wise, we are products of our time.

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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby Astus » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:18 am

Greentara,

I was talking generally about someone "who can't understand anything that happens", and not about any specific mental illness or such, as it was used only as an example.
Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby oushi » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:36 am

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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby Astus » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:06 am

Thanks for your recommendation.
Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby LastLegend » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:26 am

NAMO AMITABHA
NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby greentara » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:11 pm

Astus, 'Who can't understand anything that happens", I don't wish to labour the point but what I'm trying to say is 'who can't understand anything?' There is no such person.
A 'lunatic' may only understand part of what you say or only have an inkling but to say a person can't understand anything....is very harsh and shuts the door to all communication.

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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby Astus » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:45 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby Cloudrider » Thu May 09, 2013 7:12 pm

A voice in the wilderness


I say to you there is no buddha, no dharma, nothing to practice, nothing to enlighten to. Just what are you seeking in the highways and byways? Blind men! You’re putting a head on top of the one you already have. What do you yourselves lack? Followers of the Way, your own present activities do not diff er from those of the patriarch-buddhas. You just don’t believe this and keep on seeking outside. Make no mistake! Outside there is no dharma; inside, there is nothing to be obtained. Better than grasp at the words from my mouth, take it easy and do nothing. Don’t continue [thoughts] that have already arisen and don’t let those that haven’t yet arisen be aroused. Just this will be worth far more to you than a ten years’ pilgrimage. “As I see it, there isn’t so much to do. Just be ordinary—put on your clothes, eat your food, and pass the time doing nothing. You who come here from here and there all have a mind to seek buddha, to seek dharma, to seek emancipation, to seek escape from the three realms. Foolish fellows! When you’ve left the three realms where would you go? “‘Buddha’ and ‘patriarch’ are only names of praise-bondage. Do you want to know the three realms? Th ey are not separate from the mind-ground of you who right now are listening to my discourse. Your single covetous thought is the realm of desire; your single angry thought is the realm of form; your single delusive thought is the realm of formlessness. These are the furnishings within your own house. Th e three realms do not of themselves proclaim, ‘We are the three realms!’ But you, followers of the Way, right now vividly illumining all things and taking the measure of the world, you give the names to the three realms. -The Record of Linji (Sasaki)


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Re: Linjis teachings overlooked

Postby oushi » Tue May 14, 2013 12:31 pm

But how does one isolate a cause of this, or that behavior, and limit it to this, or that cause? How can: "We also see...", be a reliable source for fair judgement? I think that it takes more then just looking, to see through a person, and be able to say how did this, or that influence him.
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