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Is Theravada "Realist"?

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism
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Re: Is Theravada "Realist"?

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:32 am

Yes, but I think that when the Buddha says "like a log", he just means "like a log".

It's simply not relevant to ask whether that log was dependently arisen, or whatever...

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FYI/supplemental:

The Realist-Idealist Debate in Buddhist Philosophy, Master Thesis by Matt Humble (don't know him):



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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Is Theravada "Realist"?

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Is Theravada "Realist"?

Postby Alex123 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:34 am

Hello Chownah,

The point of this discussion is mind independent rūpa. The Orthodox position requires this.

Regarding intrinsic nature, it is a complex topic, and in brief what the position has to be is that rūpa does not require citta in order to exist.

When it comes to sense restraint, the more one does it the better. It is supposed to be done with wisdom and support virtue, concentration and wisdom.

With best wishes,

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