Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

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Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Earth Dragon » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:05 pm

Hi everyone. I have a very advanced buddhist teacher, who does not like people or talking to people ( including myself). Therefore he told me to conduct my own research and once i have the basic understanding, i should further consult him.

I want to understand Vajrakilaya and everything involved. I ve reas lots online but when i spoke to my teacher then within a minute he told me lots of new things- for example Vajrakilaya has snakes in his hair and the meaning of this symbol.

I can t speak sanskrit or tibetan so i m limited to english only.

I humbly ask friends - in - dharma to share knowledge and resources about Vajrakilaya.

Thanx

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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:19 pm

There is a book called "Dark Red Amulet" in English that is highly recommended.

I would think, though, before you read commentaries on Vajrakilaya on this you should have the empowerment of Vajrakilaya or at least another yidam of the equivalent class of tantra.

Especially around Vajrakilaya many teachers are quite conservative about discussing with those who don't have the appropriate transmissions, as it is known as a particularly powerful practice. I'm sure others with more direct experience of it will give you feedback soon.

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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Knotty Veneer » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:25 pm

“Trump’s grand and vulgar self-absorption is inviting all of us to examine our own selfishness. His ignorance calls us to attend to our own blind spots. The fears that he stokes and the isolation he promotes goad us to be braver, more generous.” - James S. Gordon.


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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Knotty Veneer » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:05 pm

“Trump’s grand and vulgar self-absorption is inviting all of us to examine our own selfishness. His ignorance calls us to attend to our own blind spots. The fears that he stokes and the isolation he promotes goad us to be braver, more generous.” - James S. Gordon.


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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Yudron » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:57 pm

Are you thinking about doing a specific Vajrakilaya practice, such as Longchen Nyingthig, Dudjom Tersar? There are hundreds of different practices -- different and the same -- it might help to be more specific. The earliest big text on Phurba has been translated by Martin Boord as a Bolt of Lightening in the Blue. But don't let it intimidate you. Practicing Vajrakilaya for a beginner might be using a one page text and reciting the mantra.

I think you are very brave to take on this kind of lama. I'm kind of excited by your story.
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:27 pm

This is a topic that interests me because a quite highly regarded Gelug lama told me I have a connection to Vajrakilaya and should pursue it. That was all the advice I had, and I never did any follow up except to develop a vague wish to take the initiation one day from HH Sakya Trizin or HH Karmapa. (they are the only two I sort of have a connection to that give this empowerment- it is available in the Sakya and Kagyu traditions as well as Nyingma, that might be useful for you to know as you pursue this).
The abbot of Namgyal monastery also told me that when he became abbot he had to spend a great deal of time learning the liturgies for Vajrakilaya and studying the commentaries because HH Dalai Lama considers it an extremely important practice during these times.


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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Kunga Leshe » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:18 am

You could try these: The Practice of Vajrakilaya by Khenpo Namdrol,
A Bolt of Lightning from the Blue: The vast commentary on Vajrakila that clearly defines the essential points & A Roll of Thunder from the Void: Vajrakila Texts Of The Northern Treasures Tradition, Volume Two

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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Adamantine » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:47 am

In addition to the good suggestions above, there is also some account of the history of the practice in the big red book The Nyingma School of Tibetan Buddhism by Dudjom Rinpoche. There's also an explanation of the classes of yogas in there that could be helpful.
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby Yudron » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:15 am

Once a year, before the Tibetan New Year, Nyingma gompas do several days of practice of a wrathful obstacle removing practice, usually Vajrakilaya. This year this practice is Feb. 7 - 9. So, in addition to the marvelous center Tashi Choling referred to above, one can do Vajrakilaya practice at Pema Osel Ling, or Rigdzin Ling here on the West Coast of the U.S., on those dates. It's the best time of the year to see an elaborate form of the practice, that includes wrathful activity practices that are generally done only once a year.
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby JKhedrup » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:39 am

This is an interesting article on Vajrakilaya in the Sakya tradition by the current Sakya Patriarch, HH Sakya Trizin

The full text it available here:http://www.hhthesakyatrizin.org/teach_vajrakilaya.html

The Sakya Order has innumerable exoteric and esoteric teachings, and among them the Vajrakilaya teaching cycle is the teaching with the longest history. It has been a major practice of the Khon lineage since the time of Padmasambhava and it was the Khon lineage that founded and preserved the Sakya school and has caused it to flourish.

In fact, the Khon lineage is believed to be directly descended from celestial beings. Although not much detail is known regarding the life and activities of the early generations of the Khon lineage, at that time only the Bon religion existed in Tibet, as there were not yet any Buddhist teachings.

Later, around the year 775 C.E., Guru Padmasambhava came from India to subdue the local deities and spirits, and gave many Buddhist teachings. Among them was this particular Vajrakilaya teaching, which was given to Khon Nagendra Raksita, an early member of the Khon family who was also one of the first seven Tibetans to receive full Buddhist monastic ordination.

These seven Tibetans were chosen for ordination as a trial of whether Tibetans would be able to keep Buddhist monastic vows. There were three older persons, three younger persons and one middle-aged person. Nagendra Raksita was one of the three younger persons. In this way he received full Buddhist monastic ordination from the great abbot Shanta Raksita. All seven ordained monks were very successful, which was an auspicious beginning for the great Tibetan monastic tradition.

Khon Nagendra Raksita, who was a fully ordained Buddhist monk and great translator, and his younger brother Vajra Ratna, who was a householder, both received the Vajrakilaya empowerments and teachings directly from Guru Padmasambhava.

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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby michaelb » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:03 pm

Lots of information and links have been posted already. I thought I'd add links to the books I know of. Given its widespread practice there is quite a lot written about Vajrakilaya including commentaries on the practice such as by Khenpo Namdrol Rinpoche. Martin Boord's books have already been mentioned, you can read his introduction to Bolt of Lightning From the Blue, . His other books include and the forthcoming which, I think, is a reprint of his doctoral thesis and previous now out of print "Cult of the Deity Vajrakila" available on scribd.com, . There are other academic theses on the subject on scribd.com such as Rob Mayer's translation of . There is a lot more on scribd.com including Vajrakilaya sadhanas and commentaries. Given the restricted nature of these texts, which should only really be read by people who have received the appropriate empowerment, this may not be a good thing. Two commentaries available from have recently been taken down from scribd.com. Copyright is another issue. But if you are after stuff on Vajrakilaya, there is certainly a lot out there


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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby michaelb » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:54 pm

You're welcome, Earth Dragon. Of course, there is a lot more scattered around the web, such as articles like and images with descriptions . Good luck finding what you are looking for.

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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby michaelb » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:42 pm

BTW you can also read the introduction to Roll of Thunder from the Void, . (I only just noticed that...)

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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya

Postby mahabuddha » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:46 am

"Hey teacher tell me all the secret information." No, it's probably better you find it on the internet ;)

Seems like a communication breakdown or possibly an imaginary teacher.



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