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Sotapanna's Childhood

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Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby Slava » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:38 pm

I understand that Sotapanna is a person that, among other things, managed to eradicate the self-view. One thing I was curious about is that when the sotapanna dies and is reborn as a human again, does he develop the self-view in his childhood and then abandons it upon reaching the adulthood or does he go through his childhood without developing the self view? It would be kind of weird to see a child behaving like sotapanna :)

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Re: Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby daverupa » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:49 pm

It's possible the seven lives part of the sotapanna pericope isn't actually referring to seven more rebirths, as the word usually translated into "lives" is literally a billet, a sort of bedding arrangement. There are seven more fetters to eliminate before arahatship, and seven more stages beyond the path to stream entry (fruit, then path + fruit for once-returners, non-returners, and arahats), which I find interesting. Seven lives, indeed.

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Re: Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby cooran » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:04 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:25 pm

Interestingly, there appear to be no cases in the Suttas of sotapanna's being reborn in the human realm. See Ven Dhammanando's discussion in a previous thread on this issue here: http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... =358#p3609

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Re: Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby Slava » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:42 pm

Thanks for the link, mikenz66. That was an interesting discussion.

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Re: Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:07 pm

Sometimes you see little kids who seem more mature and 'together' than the other little monsters around them, or even their parents. You gotta wonder if their bvangha is further along the road than most. That probably isn't phrased very well but you know what I mean. I hope.

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Re: Sotapanna's Childhood

Postby pilgrim » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:09 am

A bit off -topic as Dhammaruwan does not claim to be a Sotapanna. But the record of his early childhood might give some idea on this interesting question. http://www.boudisbeli.com/?p=369


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