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What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:32 pm

I am asking what your personal authority is for your assertions. Or what the authority is of those who formed the views that you are framing as though they are personal knowledge.
How do you know it happens in an " just a moment " for example.
You have either experienced this yourself...or you have deduced this view . In which case what is the source of your deduction ? A specific reference rather than waving generally in the direction of a pile of Suttas would be appreciated.

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:44 pm

I have not the slightest, foggiest, notion of the mechanics of awakening...none.
Such a consideration is so utterly beyond my ken as to be a thing pointless to ponder. I cannot post Sutta references because I would not know where to start. Either to support or to refute what you have written.
I am therefore fascinated to hear that someone else has such a clear idea that he is willing to go public with it :popcorn: ...

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:12 pm

I think I will just stick to practising. Curious notion I know. If ever that leads to awakening I will will describe the last few moments of the process....hows that ?

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:26 pm

I should perhaps add a qualifier...My first teacher Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche said. " We see ourselves on a brightly lit stage , with an audience, becoming Enlightened. I have to disappoint you. When Enlightenment happens " we " wont be there at all. "

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Re: Where is the paper refuting Christopher Titmuss ?

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:34 pm

Hi Morning Mist,

I referred to the extensive discussion on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8879 some of which clearly contradicted Christopher's interesting and iconoclastic discussion points.

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Postby retrofuturist » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:07 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby PeterB » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:04 am

Probably time for new thread titled " What Christopher Titmuss did not teach about the Buddha teachings " :smile:

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby namaste » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:40 pm

This raises some questions, for example, if it's true the Buddha didn't teach the 5 preceplts, (or the 10?), then why do we observe them? Would it be more in keeping with the Buddha's teachings to simply practice good morality as he taught it, without a laundry list of do's and don'ts?

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:34 am

Greetings,

Does anyone know if/how Christopher Titmuss may be contacted?

It would be interesting to see if he was interested in responding to a consolidated 'counter-claim'.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:07 am

Hi Retro,

http://www.christophertitmuss.org/
(of course...)

Interesting question whether one should "bother" well-known people. It would depend on what you were seeking I've corresponded briefly with a few people when I had specific questions that had specific answers (which sutta they were using as a source, etc.). I've never tried to engage them in . Generally such people will be well aware of the arguments (Bhikkhu Bodhi sometimes comments in his talks how out on the internet there are these people complaining about: "That fool Bodhi, he's completely wrong about ...").

From what I know of Christopher (some of the Insight people I know here have done retreats with him), his intent would be for such a list to be provocative and irritating to as many as possible...

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby cooran » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:09 am

Hello Paul,

Try this:

hristopher Titmuss
7 Denys Road
Totnes, Devon
TQ9 5TJ

email: [email protected]

Not sure how often he checks in.

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:14 am

Greetings Mike & Chris,

Thanks.

Good point as to whether we should "bother" him, but on the other hand, I'm sure he would like to know that his list did in fact stimulate some discussion and reflection amongst Dhamma practitioners, challenge some assumptions and all.... but would the intent on his behalf really be to be as "provocative and irritating to as many as possible..."? I find it difficult to imagine anyone serious about the Dhamma wanting to irritate people.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What the Buddha did not teach - Christopher Titmuss

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:25 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine


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