YOU CANNOT POST. OUR WEB HOSTING COMPANY DECIDED TO MOVE THE SERVER TO ANOTHER LOCATION. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN VIEW THIS VERSION WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW POSTING AND WILL NOT SAVE ANYTHING YOU DO ONCE THE OTHER SERVER GOES ONLINE.

Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not? - Dhamma Wheel

Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism
User avatar
cooran
Posts: 8502
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:32 pm
Location: Queensland, Australia

Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby cooran » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:05 pm

Hello all,

Is this a good thing or not? (Piya Tan features briefly in this report)

Smartphones make religion mobile –
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/c ... 578162.stm

With metta
Chris
---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

User avatar
David N. Snyder
Site Admin
Posts: 10648
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:15 am
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Contact:

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:42 pm

:thumbsup:

Good thing.

More accessibility to Dhamma
Image




Mawkish1983
Posts: 1286
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:46 am
Location: Essex, UK

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:01 pm

I read suttas on my phone at night via the ATI app, and even now I'm using Dhammawheel on my phone. I think apps can be beneficial

User avatar
cooran
Posts: 8502
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:32 pm
Location: Queensland, Australia

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby cooran » Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:16 pm

Hello all,

Piya Tan’s comment was (I think) that Apps are about the Senses focusing outward whereas Buddha teaches to turn the senses inward, as in Meditation.

with metta
Chris
---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

User avatar
appicchato
Posts: 1603
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:47 am
Location: Bridge on the River Kwae

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby appicchato » Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:26 pm

The name (and others) says it all...access to insight... :thumbsup:

User avatar
Ben
Posts: 18442
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:49 am
Location: kanamaluka

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:06 pm

Hi Chris,
What is the difference between a smart phone dhamma app and accessing dhamma resources on a computer - or a book?
kind regards
Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

Mawkish1983
Posts: 1286
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:46 am
Location: Essex, UK

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:10 pm

If this is the modern use of smartphone apps, what are the historic or archaic uses of smartphone apps?

User avatar
cooran
Posts: 8502
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:32 pm
Location: Queensland, Australia

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby cooran » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:17 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

User avatar
mikenz66
Posts: 14947
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:37 am
Location: New Zealand

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:26 pm


Jhana4
Posts: 1309
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:20 pm
Location: U.S.A., Northeast

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Jhana4 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:29 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

User avatar
retrofuturist
Site Admin
Posts: 17855
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:34 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

morning mist
Posts: 251
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:31 pm

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby morning mist » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:39 pm

Apps with guided meditation can show you how to go within. Information /suttas can be accessed offline as well. :thumbsup: They are a lot lighter than carrying around a book or laptop. People with a mac or iPad can access these apps and not just from smartphones. I guess before people mainly use desktop, then everyone turn to the laptop, now it is the smart phones & tablets ( iPads, etc..) . If people make the dhamma available through the internet , why not make it available through offline app. It is convenient and interactive.
with metta,

User avatar
Ben
Posts: 18442
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:49 am
Location: kanamaluka

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:39 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

Jhana4
Posts: 1309
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:20 pm
Location: U.S.A., Northeast

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Jhana4 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:00 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

morning mist
Posts: 251
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:31 pm

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby morning mist » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:18 am

With some meditation apps you can set the length of the guided meditation , select which background audio to go with the guided meditation audio ( or none), set the volume for each, keep track of your meditation sessions and show statistics of how often you meditate, set reminder for meditation sessions, and come with instructions all in one place. The possibilities are endless. But that is not to say that you would need all that features.
with metta,

User avatar
ground
Posts: 2591
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:01 am

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby ground » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:32 am

It may increase the no. of instances of distraction. Dhamma related activities such as reading books or in internet forums etc may be instances of distraction. If the medium of potential distraction is mobile then the no. of instances of distraction may increase.


Kind regards

User avatar
appicchato
Posts: 1603
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:47 am
Location: Bridge on the River Kwae

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby appicchato » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:22 am


morning mist
Posts: 251
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:31 pm

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby morning mist » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:56 am

with metta,

Jhana4
Posts: 1309
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:20 pm
Location: U.S.A., Northeast

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby Jhana4 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:14 pm

I think the answer is that dhamma apps or dhamma resources on the internet via a stationary computer isn't providing significantly more distractions than existed before in the world with books, magazines, cassettes and portable cassette players. Apps on smart phones are just trimming a few ounces off what people might otherwise be carrying around.

People who are inclined toward distractions will find distractions and if they can't they will make them. Look at the nonsense that has happened in the last 2600 years.

Technology has made the dhamma much more accessible to people, to a degree that far outweighs the downsides of internet bickering and idle chatter.

A man on his way home from work on a commuter train can now read a book on meditation. He can clarify something to himself that will help his practice or read something that will inspire his practice. Smartphones make this easier as they are less bulky than books and he doesn't have to remember to take a particular book. If he would rather meditate on the train he can still do so. If he wants to be distracted he can people watch. It all comes down to choice.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

User avatar
imagemarie
Posts: 420
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:35 pm

Re: Modern use of Apps for Dhamma - good or not?

Postby imagemarie » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:19 pm



Return to “General Theravāda discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 19 guests

Google Saffron, Theravada Search Engine