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Bad Destiny After Brahma Inhabitant's Death? - Dhamma Wheel

Bad Destiny After Brahma Inhabitant's Death?

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pelletboy
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Bad Destiny After Brahma Inhabitant's Death?

Postby pelletboy » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:56 pm

In AN 4.123 it is said that "Again, there is the case where an individual, with the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, enters & remains in the second jhana: rapture & pleasure born of composure, unification of awareness free from directed thought & evaluation — internal assurance. He savors that, longs for that, finds satisfaction through that. Staying there — fixed on that, dwelling there often, not falling away from that — then when he dies he reappears in conjunction with the Abhassara[1] devas.[2] The Abhassara devas, monks, have a life-span of two eons. A run-of-the-mill person having stayed there, having used up all the life-span of those devas, goes to hell, to the animal womb, to the state of the hungry shades. But a disciple of the Blessed One, having stayed there, having used up all the life-span of those devas, is unbound right in that state of being. This, monks, is the difference, this the distinction, this the distinguishing factor, between an educated disciple of the noble ones and an uneducated run-of-the-mill person, when there is a destination, a reappearing."
Are puthujanna beings born as brahmas inevitably reborn in unfortunate realms after their death? If so, then its better to be reborn as devas who become humans after death than to be a brahma where you end up in the unfortunate realms where it is hard to get out of?

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Re: Bad Destiny After Brahma Inhabitant's Death?

Postby santa100 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:04 pm

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