Everything we experience ....

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Everything we experience ....

Postby kirtu » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:25 pm

Experiences from the Vajrayana view - everything we experience is the arisal, momentary existence of and dissolution of the mandala while viewing experiences as normal just physical existence causes our currently arisen confusion to reinforce itself.

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"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
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Re: Everything we experience ....

Postby Indrajala » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:23 pm

Is Vajrayana singular or plural?
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Re: Everything we experience ....

Postby kirtu » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:44 pm

And here you criticize Zen teachers for playing with riddles ...

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Re: Everything we experience ....

Postby Heruka » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:19 am

kirtu wrote:Experiences from the Vajrayana view - everything we experience is the arisal, momentary existence of and dissolution of the mandala while viewing experiences as normal just physical existence causes our currently arisen confusion to reinforce itself.

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hi kirt, i would say experiences are more akin to watching a bird fly across the empty sky, we can follow it, but it leaves no trace of its path. however our vision of the bird itself, whether we are a hunter or a bird fancier, (karma) qualifies and continues our experience, with likes and dislikes etc.
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Re: Everything we experience ....

Postby Astus » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:14 am

Experience, Zen, birds, there you go:

One day Baizhang accompanied Mazu on a walk. A flock of wild ducks flew by them.
Mazu said, "What's that?"
Baizhang said, "Wild ducks."
Mazu said, "Where'd they go?"
Baizhang said, "They flew away."
Mazu then twisted Baizhang's nose so hard that he cried out.
Mazu said, "So you say they've flown away!"
Upon hearing these words Baizhang attained enlightenment.

(from: Zen's Chinese Heritage by A.E. Ferguson, p. 77)
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)
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Re: Everything we experience ....

Postby ground » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:59 am

Everything we experience is just that.

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