Why influence restrictive nature?

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xtracorrupt
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Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby xtracorrupt » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:58 pm

We do not need to believe restriction is necessary, why do we identify things with restrictive qualities?

Example:

Imagine your mind desires a piece of soap to be interpreted as big, this can cause ignorance of possibilities of the soap not being big




Situation observed from multiple perspectives:


Example of one becoming angry from one's ignorance:

*you believe the dice will land on a 6*

*The dice lands on a 5*

*Anger because the dice's outcome did not satisfy one's previous belief*


Example of one acknowledging one's previous ignorance:

* you believe the dice will land on a 6*

* the dice lands on 5*

* acknowledgement that one's current interpretation of the situation does not satisfy one's previous interpretation.



Example of losing interest in a belief:

* satisfaction*

* you believe the dice will land on a 6*

* you interpret the dice as landing on a 5*

*disatisfaction with one's belief because it does not satisfy one's interpretation*

* detachment to one's belief*

*satisfaction


Example of desire for interpretation of what number the dice will land on:

*satisfaction*

* desire to see the outcome of the dice*

* the dice lands on 6*

*satisfaction*
Existence can be normal.
Ex:a Apple tree is a apple tree
Ex:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is


Existence can be conditioned.
Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree grows
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditioned
Ex: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeks
Ex: Michael is Michael once Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.

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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

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xtracorrupt
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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby xtracorrupt » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:40 pm

Existence can be normal.
Ex:a Apple tree is a apple tree
Ex:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is


Existence can be conditioned.
Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree grows
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditioned
Ex: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeks
Ex: Michael is Michael once Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.

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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:14 pm

Is reality something other than our interpretation of it?
:namaste:
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby xtracorrupt » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:44 pm

Existence can be normal.
Ex:a Apple tree is a apple tree
Ex:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is


Existence can be conditioned.
Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree grows
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditioned
Ex: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeks
Ex: Michael is Michael once Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.

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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:12 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby xtracorrupt » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:52 am

Existence can be normal.
Ex:a Apple tree is a apple tree
Ex:Michael is Michael, Michael is who Michael is


Existence can be conditioned.
Ex: Apple tree is apple tree if apple tree grows
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is Michael if Michael is not walking

Existence can be unconditioned
Ex: Apple is apple tree once apple tree is grown for 50 weeks
Ex: Michael is Michael once Michael is a king
Ex: Michael is content Michael once Michael is walking
Ex: Michael is discontent Michael once Michael is walking.

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Re: Why influence restrictive nature?

Postby Grigoris » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:59 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde


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