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Is Goodwill Really Possible for Long? - Dhamma Wheel

Is Goodwill Really Possible for Long?

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Is Goodwill Really Possible for Long?

Postby pelletboy » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:49 am

Is the practice of universal goodwill really possible for long? The Dhamma says to love enemies, neutral persons, dear persons, and yourself equally such that if one were to be caught by criminals who make you choose to sacrifice one of the 4, one would not hand anyone not even yourself. Life is chock full of instances where you can't go forward without having to sacrifice one of the four (in some little or big way). Then there are also the question of dealing with maras or evil persons who would gain much if you do not fight them back.

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Re: Is Goodwill Really Possible for Long?

Postby nameless » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:16 pm

One doesn't 'have' to sacrifice "one of the four", one just chooses to do so in order to attain certain goals. If you sacrifice the one that is socially acceptable, it is easy to say that you 'had to' do it because people around you will agree and you don't have to think about it. But it is always for some self-serving purpose. Self, or the self's in-group, or the self's need to be a certain kind of person, or to appear to be a certain kind of person.

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Re: Is Goodwill Really Possible for Long?

Postby nameless » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:34 pm

There are precious few instances where the average person has to sacrifice someone in order to survive. In order to survive with certain conditions, maybe. As you have said, they may be self-serving conditions. There is nothing wrong with being self-serving, but I think whether you are being self-serving and being aware of it, and whether you are thinking that you 'have to' sacrifice someone in order to 'survive', is an important distinction to make.

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