Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

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Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby TaTa » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:38 pm

I'm analyzing the possibility of going to a goenka retreat although im really interested in tibetan buddhism. I would like to know how i would response to a retreat like that and im thinking that maybe it would be a nice base before going into more "complex" vajrayana practices. What do you think fellow practitioners?

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby Grigoris » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:41 pm

:twothumbsup: Goenka retreats are fantastic. I have a fellow vajra brother in the Kagyu tradition that also "leads" Goenka retreats and has taught Goenka Vipassana at Kagyu centres.

Now the only problem is if you have samaya for practices, but even then... it is not as if you will be leaving the practices to engage in sex, drugs and rock'n'roll (and there's always Vajrasattva practice and 35 Confession Buddha practices to make up for the samaya breakages).
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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby TaTa » Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:33 pm

The only samaya i have is to recite sangye menla's mantra 7 times a day. Does it count if i do it mentaly? Or maybe i can break the silence in the reatret for that porpuse only hehe

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby Konchog1 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:05 pm

Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

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"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby deepbluehum » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:08 pm

Take a look at Bhante Madawela Punnaji for a system that more resembles Kagyu mahamudra.

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby Grigoris » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:17 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby deepbluehum » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:18 pm

If you engage in Theravada methods with a Mahayana attitude, it is not Hinayana.

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby Konchog1 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:48 pm

Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby Grigoris » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:32 pm

Yes, well, maybe you gotta look at peoples comments within the context of the discussion before running off on tangents!? :tongue:
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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby plwk » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:05 am

What does your teacher think, TaTa, if you have one?

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby Simon E. » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:19 am

I did a Vipassana retreat while a student of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche..in fact he sent a whole bunch of us to do several.
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Re: Doing a goenka retreat while beeing a kagyu student?

Postby jhonsmith » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:08 am

Take a look at Bhante Madawela Punnaji for a system that more resembles Kagyu mahamudra. Theravada methods with a Mahayana attitude,,,....!!!

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