CrawfordHollow wrote:I hope you understand that from what I can tell most of the folks here at Dharma Wheel do take each other seriously. We respect each other (most of the time), and most of all we respect our teachers and our practice. There are many here who have been practicing at a very serious level for decades, some have even spent years of their lives in retreat. I personally take Dzogchen very seriously, which is why I have a very hard time taking anything that you say seriously at all. You should know that nobody who practices let alone has accomplished Thogal would ever talk about it so openly. There are very specific reasons why this is so. We politely told you earlier that this is a subject that is not appropriate for this forum. You continue to talk about it, now you say that you have accomplished the practice after admitting that you have never recieved transmission for the practice. I am sorry, but this is wrong. You should really try to understand this. I sent you several PMs trying to help you find a teacher and explain what little I know about Dzogchen. I am sorry if you are above all of that, but- no teacher, no transmission, no Dzogchen. I wish you a very good night. I hope you find the answers you are looking for. Oh, and what you are practicing is not Thogal. Good luck.
I had a teacher and a transmission somehow, but I have done mostly through my insights the discovery of Rigpa. All the masters of Dzogchen I have seen through, only Chogyal Namkhai Norbu is interesting. I can't receive any transmission from him because nothing absolutely relieving happen. And I know perfectly when transmission happen, here nothing, because I got a strong sense of stability of Rigpa. Dzogchen is Rigpa, once you have been introduced to it and you rely on its wisdom you know the teaching of Dzogchen.
Thogal. Do you know what Thigle is? I haven't received clear knowledge on the practice of Thogal from a Master, that's true. But what can you do from Thigle when this is your view no matter where you look effortlessly? What can be done when Thigle is your identity?
If you don't take me seriously, it is probable because of my humility and my lack of knowledge. The reasons you don't share for why we shouldn't speak openly about Thogal, I seem to understand them but there is a point where certainty allows for such sharing before I am going died or gone for whatever reasons.