The term Puja seems to be used in a wide many ways. I take it that it's from Sanskrit?
What is the corresponding Tibetan term?
How does the way we describe practice with terms like Puja, Sadhana, etc. affect our understanding of them?
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The term Puja
by lotwell » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:32 pm
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Re: The term Puja
by windsweptliberty » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:49 pm
Lion's roar: "Puja (literally an offering) is a Meditation Ritual on one of the Bodhisattvas or Buddhas. It is a ceremony in which prayers are offered to the Buddhas to request their blessings or invoke their help." There are different Pujas for different times in ones life and can be performed upon request. 
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Re: The term Puja
by gregkavarnos » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:59 pm
The corresponding Tibetan term is tsog/tsok.
"Meditation is familiarisation with realisation"
Jigten Sumgon Gonchig: The Single Intent, the Sacred Dharma
"Oh great bodhisattva, you ought to understand the quintessence in this way: Whatever appears is one in its suchness. It cannot be falsified by anyone. The sovereign of unconceptualised sameness dwells in the spirit of the Dharmakaya which cannot be cognised."
The All Creating Sovereign, Mind of Perfect Purity.
Jigten Sumgon Gonchig: The Single Intent, the Sacred Dharma
"Oh great bodhisattva, you ought to understand the quintessence in this way: Whatever appears is one in its suchness. It cannot be falsified by anyone. The sovereign of unconceptualised sameness dwells in the spirit of the Dharmakaya which cannot be cognised."
The All Creating Sovereign, Mind of Perfect Purity.
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Re: The term Puja
by udawa » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:33 pm
gregkavarnos wrote:The corresponding Tibetan term is tsog/tsok.
Tsog (tshogs) is the Tibetan translation of gana (as in ganacakra), which is basically the idea of a gathering or assembly.
Yes, puja is Sanskrit. I believe the Tibetan translation of puja is cho (mchod).
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Re: The term Puja
by ngodrup » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:44 am
It is my understanding that the Sanskrit word puja can be translated
in two different ways: "to please" and "to give birth to merit."
The second approach seems more impersonal, therefore more
suitable for Buddhist usage.
in two different ways: "to please" and "to give birth to merit."
The second approach seems more impersonal, therefore more
suitable for Buddhist usage.
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Re: The term Puja
by Konchog1 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:50 am
"Neu-sur-ba said: You must see any affliction as an enemy and attack it as soon as it arises in your mind. Otherwise, if you acquiesce when it first appears, and then nurture it with improper thoughts, you will have no way to defeat it, and it will conquer you in the end.”
-Lam Rim Chen Mo eng v01 pg. 348 tib pg. 275
-Lam Rim Chen Mo eng v01 pg. 348 tib pg. 275
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Re: The term Puja
by gregkavarnos » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:57 pm
I stand corrected!udawa wrote:gregkavarnos wrote:The corresponding Tibetan term is tsog/tsok.
Tsog (tshogs) is the Tibetan translation of gana (as in ganacakra), which is basically the idea of a gathering or assembly.
Yes, puja is Sanskrit. I believe the Tibetan translation of puja is cho (mchod).
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I goofed up because we always refer to the ganachakra puja as a tsog!"Meditation is familiarisation with realisation"
Jigten Sumgon Gonchig: The Single Intent, the Sacred Dharma
"Oh great bodhisattva, you ought to understand the quintessence in this way: Whatever appears is one in its suchness. It cannot be falsified by anyone. The sovereign of unconceptualised sameness dwells in the spirit of the Dharmakaya which cannot be cognised."
The All Creating Sovereign, Mind of Perfect Purity.
Jigten Sumgon Gonchig: The Single Intent, the Sacred Dharma
"Oh great bodhisattva, you ought to understand the quintessence in this way: Whatever appears is one in its suchness. It cannot be falsified by anyone. The sovereign of unconceptualised sameness dwells in the spirit of the Dharmakaya which cannot be cognised."
The All Creating Sovereign, Mind of Perfect Purity.
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Re: The term Puja
by kalden yungdrung » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:03 pm
Tashi delek,
Yes Tsog is the Tibetan genaral translation of a Ganachakra and not per se a Puja.
ཚོགས་ཀྱི་འཁོར་ལོ། tshogs kyi 'khor lo would be the Tibetan translation about offerings.
A Puja do i understand as more a worship to the Yidams etc..
So offering that would be the core for these kind of rituals like visualistaions of perfect universes and offering them afterwards.
Other ritual objects are blessed by mantras before offered.
The Chodpa, practtioner of Chod, does offer his body.
The most welknown of a Ganachakra would be those of the Indian Mahasiddhas.
I guess so that these matters do belong to Tantra and are very benefitial if practiced well.
Mutsog marro
KY
Yes Tsog is the Tibetan genaral translation of a Ganachakra and not per se a Puja.
ཚོགས་ཀྱི་འཁོར་ལོ། tshogs kyi 'khor lo would be the Tibetan translation about offerings.
A Puja do i understand as more a worship to the Yidams etc..
So offering that would be the core for these kind of rituals like visualistaions of perfect universes and offering them afterwards.
Other ritual objects are blessed by mantras before offered.
The Chodpa, practtioner of Chod, does offer his body.
The most welknown of a Ganachakra would be those of the Indian Mahasiddhas.
I guess so that these matters do belong to Tantra and are very benefitial if practiced well.
Mutsog marro
KY
THOUGH A MAN BE LEARNED
IF HE DOES NOT APPLY HIS KNOWLEDGE
HE RESEMBLES THE BLIND MAN
WHO WITH A LAMP IN THE HAND CANNOT SEE THE ROAD
IF HE DOES NOT APPLY HIS KNOWLEDGE
HE RESEMBLES THE BLIND MAN
WHO WITH A LAMP IN THE HAND CANNOT SEE THE ROAD
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Re: The term Puja
by udawa » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:53 pm
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,
Yes Tsog is the Tibetan genaral translation of a Ganachakra and not per se a Puja.
ཚོགས་ཀྱི་འཁོར་ལོ། tshogs kyi 'khor lo would be the Tibetan translation about offerings.
A Puja do i understand as more a worship to the Yidams etc..
So offering that would be the core for these kind of rituals like visualistaions of perfect universes and offering them afterwards.
Other ritual objects are blessed by mantras before offered.
The Chodpa, practtioner of Chod, does offer his body.
The most welknown of a Ganachakra would be those of the Indian Mahasiddhas.
I guess so that these matters do belong to Tantra and are very benefitial if practiced well.
Mutsog marro
KY
tshogs kyi 'khor lo is the Tibetan translation of ganacakra.
Puja is a general term used in both mahayana and vajrayana. The classic format is the 7 fold puja (homage, offering, confession, rejoicing, requesting the turning of the Dharma wheel, asking the Buddhas not to pass into Nirvana, dedication of punya). I guess the best known version is that found in Santideva's Bodhicaryavatara.
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Re: The term Puja
by udawa » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:12 pm
gregkavarnos wrote:I stand corrected!udawa wrote:gregkavarnos wrote:The corresponding Tibetan term is tsog/tsok.
Tsog (tshogs) is the Tibetan translation of gana (as in ganacakra), which is basically the idea of a gathering or assembly.
Yes, puja is Sanskrit. I believe the Tibetan translation of puja is cho (mchod).
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Yes, it is confusing. You often hear people talk about tsok pujas. I wonder if this is an expression Tibetans started to use after they found themselves living in exile in India?
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