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Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?
2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.
3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.
4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.
1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"
so you don't need to accept all of buddhist doctrenes as true. the discovery and acknowlegement of these doctrines are your own tasks just like the Buddha and other masters did. it's like in Asia, when lay people recieve five precepts, in some occasions, one can choose not to receive certain precepts. if one was a butcher, then he/she can choose not to receive the first precept. -ahimsa-
I agree, you don't need to agree with everything to be able to practice. Remain agnostic and practice with a school. Sooner or later your views will either change (from meditative experience) or you'll realise these things just aren't that important to stress over
I agree with this.
I'm a Tibetan Buddhist; which is a very mystical school of Buddhism. There are many things within it that I don't believe: such as the higher realms, literal samsara and literal karma. I do personally believe in rebirth, though.
But you know what? None of my personal belief, or disbelief, really matters. It's all about the practice itself and how I apply it in my life.
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I like what Astus said, plenty of people come to Buddhism doubting all the non-obvious stuff, but it's also undeniable that rebirth and karma are at the center of Buddhist doctrine, including the Pali Canon - the closest thing we have to a literal "word of the Buddha".
Why would you avoid doing something because you don't agree with 100% of it?
Also, how is a story not a truth?
The only Buddhism that rejects rebirth that I know of are modern "take what ya like" versions.
that lightnings garland, while on earth below, the peacocks dance with joy as
showers of rain, falling gently, approach.
-The Door Of Happiness
How real is any of this stuff, ultimately?
It is a intrinsic part of Buddhist teachings, but it isn't necessary to personally believe in that to practice.
As the Buddha said, try it and see if it proves true for you.
I know it personally has proved true for me as I've had past lives come up in my sitting.
But while that works for me, my personal "proof" doesn't really do anything for you or anyone else other than to say that someone else has experienced it.
You still would either have to find it true for you, or not, or that it doesn't matter as someone said.
IT IS OUR CHOICE
We can stand in our shadow, and wallow in the darkness,
We can turn around.
It is OUR choice." -Rev. Basil Singer
" ...out of fear, even the good harm one another. " -Rev. Dazui MacPhillamy
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