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British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby bodom » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:54 am

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To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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Postby manas » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:37 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby plwk » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:49 am

Does every dead person's thread have to end up like this? :thinking: :lol:

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:05 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Reductor » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:18 am

'The heedful do not die, the heedless are as if already dead'

Retro's comment seemed spot on, esp. from a dhammic perspective.

While it is sad that she died, and as a father I cringe at the thought of losing a beloved child, the suffering endured in life by Amy seems the worse. And having the family that I do, it seems very possible that at least one dear one will meet such an untimely death. Does that make it insensitive to talk about it plainly?

Amy winehouses death is not unique, and neither was her suffering; just call a spade a spade, as they say, and be done with it.

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby Ben » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:12 am

Yes, all beings should be an object of compassion and loving kindess irregardless of whether we like them or not.
kind regards

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:47 pm

Greetings,

Talk of whether someone "deserved it", assumes working knowledge of kamma and its vipaka to a level explained by the Buddha as unconjecturable. Such talk is speculative idle chatter.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby manas » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:35 am

Just to clarify (I wish I had not originally gotten caught up in this now, but it's too late...) :|

Neither I, nor (I believe) any of the others here who were concerned about a perceived lack of compassion regarding the death of this pop singer (whose music isn't really to my taste btw), see her death as any more significant than, say, that of a child who has just starved to death in Africa, for example. Just today, it is most likely that somewhere in that Continent, some little boy or girl (or maybe hundreds, or thousands?) will lose their life (lives?) due to starvation - a painful way to die, so I've heard. Every one of those children is another 'universe' in the same way that we all are - all seeing life from their own perspective, wanting life, not wanting death. And I'm sorry if some will be irritated by a perceived sentimentality on my part, but for most parents, their children are like 'the light of their lives', and you have to be a parent to understand this. There are most probably alot of grieving parents all around the world today...so no, neither I nor anyone else would pretend that the death of a pop singer is any more significant than the death of any other human being. Accuse me of being a softie, but I feel for all those parents who have lost children today. Most of them don't have the dhamma for guidance as we do. For them, there is little solace in their pain. Maybe I'm a fool for feeling sadness over them. But so far, it doesn't seem to impede my meditation practice if I occassionally shed a few tears over the numberless grieving parents around the world.

Ok, I got that off my chest...peace for everyone here, truly. There is no conflict here, we all have the dhamma. I do feel for those who don't, however. How much harder it must be for them, when they lose someone!

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Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: British singer Amy Winehouse found dead

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:25 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine


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