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What is Mara?

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What is Mara?

Postby Moth » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:11 am

Is he meant to be an actual being or just a personification of defilement? Buddha also describes Mara and "Maras" as both a single being an a classification of beings, how can this be understood?
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Postby alan » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:13 am

Mara is the personification of inappropriate behavior. Mara tempts you with sensual pleasures to try to get you off the path. Mara is a temptress, a seductress, and a deluder. One which I have fallen for many times.

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Re: What is Mara?

Postby alan » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:46 am

Well, you may be right. Mara will always be female to me.

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Re: What is Mara?

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:54 am

Thank you Bhante for sharing the link to the Sayadaw's Uttama Purisa Dīpanī on your site.
I had the honour of visiting and meditating in his meditation cave in Monywa earlier this year.
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Postby Ruralist » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:44 pm

Mara is the monkey on my back.....
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Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:03 pm

Mara, as a being is always male. I forget the exact Sutta reference, but it is sort of an "office holder" which changes with samsara/rebirth.

A Samma-sam-buddha is always male, so one consolation for those who favor egalitarianism (like myself), is that Mara is also a male. :tongue:
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Re: What is Mara?

Postby bodom » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:51 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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Postby cooran » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:58 pm

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Re: What is Mara?

Postby Jason » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:44 pm

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Re: What is Mara?

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:48 pm

If you were the 'king of pop', it doesn't mean you are pop it self..

I think these are just misguided devas who took the material/sensual thing to a form of religion..almost. Thats just my opinion, incidentally. It is however interesting that there must always be a Mara. Almost like a Yang to Buddha's Yin.. (that is ALSO just my opinion :tongue: )!

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Re: What is Mara?

Postby Vepacitta » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:16 pm

Mara (and his 3 lovely daughters) are beings that are higher than the Devas - can't remember which level - possibly the gods who control what is created. There are lesser Maras who are part of his horde or troupe. There is a reference to Mara's (Uncle??) in one of the Suttas of the MN. I would have to go and look it up.

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