floating_abu wrote:I feel that any tradition which is genuine and in the hands of a realised person has the capacity to bring the student to fruition, if the student also has the capacity and the willingness to do so also.
Abu - Just as an FYI, I have become convinced that ChNN is a genuine and realized teacher from reading and watching some of his teachings and particularly after watching the documentary My Reincarnation
, in which one can see he is a genuine and humble person.
I would not have come to this conclusion from observing his students here on this forum, where they are almost invariantly rude, arrogant, and prideful. In fact, it was this that drove me to seek-out more information on ChNN. It is also this that contributes to my reluctance to seek-out ChNN as my own teacher. I cannot reconcile the two presentations.
That is interesting. I have not investigated much of this good teacher, but would trust that he is good. That said, I agree that students and culture are often a very good indicator of a system. (I would also counter though that internet Buddhists, for balance's sake, are not always representative of a whole culture - most practicing Buddhists I know, including some very dear ones to me, do not ever come on the internet for Buddhism, nor discuss/debate on forums like this. In fact my beloved one thinks it is a poor habit of mine
but I have been doing this for .. 2,4,6,8,9 years etc so it is a harder habit to break
I used to have exchanges with Namdrol on e-Sangha - a good forum which deteriorated and ultimately broke down because of the very insistent and strong ... I would say prejudice of people like Namdrol at the time who insisted on the superiority of some schools, and degraded others... I understand from other posts that Malcom recently expressed regret on that but as always the proof is in the pudding, and it does not matter so much because I guess at the end of the day we are all (individually) responsible for the (whole) picture i.e this world. Still, a very good Buddhist resource and community and very good words/learnings broke down (and Dharma Wheel is one of the forums that came up as a result of the deterioration of e-Sangha and an old meeting place for many of us refugees
) but of course such behaviour never inspired me to people that perhaps thought intellectual knowledge equalled to genuine Buddhist realisation.
I have a lot of respect for Dzogchen teachings though and the resonance is the same to Zen Buddhism to me i.e. the outcome and realisations are exactly the same. And I think the writings of the old masters are good, very lucid in explanation and description and accurate guides. I respect the context of their teaching and the system they have set up to teach. I have not
read many of the modern accounts though but trust that the school is very well and good - and I have confidence and trust in its abilities and potentials under good guidance.
I also do not have a problem with different traditions claiming general superiority -- as Jikan wisely points out it is the practice and the student and the teacher that roll the ball though. And each school probably does need to to a degree encourage and motivate its students - and the efficacy of practices do vary, but how and what is not so easy to pinpoint perhaps.
One of my Zen teachers ie. one I have sat with once said approximately 'If anyone here says Zen is the best the only etc, then you are not a real Zen student'
I defer to his encouragements, and his kind wisdom in that regard.
As I do not know the good Rinpoche, I cannot say too much about him, but I would not disbelieve in his realisation of course. That said, the capacity, the kammic connections and the means used to guide students is often another thing. Arrogance and rigidity as a starting point may be understandable, and therefore forgiveable for all of us students -- but if it is a longer standing trait over long years, then I would say the system of teaching might need some review. Or perhaps they (we) are all just still ripening.
In the end all genuine traditions are similar in the fruit of the realisation: and that result is typically one of compassion, kindness and humility -- not to mention the ultimate truth/recognition that all beings are one, all life is united, and all people contribute to the outcomes that will come. The transcendence aspect can also not be denied.
Please choose one that resonates with you, you feel basic comfort in, but above all the practice and the guides will come to you if you are sincere and continue to practice. At least, that is what I believe only
Well wishes to you my friend.