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what is contact?

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Gena1480
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what is contact?

Postby Gena1480 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:04 am

Can some please give me diffenition of contact
what is function of contact?
how do we cease contact?

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Re: what is contact?

Postby nathan » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:38 am

As part of our makeup human beings have a subtle mental quality of percipience. When this quality 'contacts' other mental qualities, mind objects, forms and sensations this contact results our ongoing flow of perceptions. When we practice insight, we can observe how this flow and flux of contacts behaves. When we practice concentration we can steady this flux and flow and withdraw the mental quality of percipience from the flux and flow by steadying it in jhana or awareness of the body, breath or other simple forms. If we develop concentration to the extent that we can let go of the contact with forms during jhana we will encounter the subtler underlying mental qualities which support the perceptions of form and if we develop these formless concentrations further we will be left with simply the mental quality of percipience alone. When there is only the mental quality of percipience, contact with all else ceases. If we let go of this subtlest mental quality feeling and perception, even the subtle mental quality of percipience will cease entirely for a time. These are the ways in which contact can be observed and can be brought to cessation. This is how contact can be observed and how the cessation of feeling, perception and with these the cessation of contact can be realized, by means of the gradual and progressive development of insight and concentration.
But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}

Gena1480
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Re: what is contact?

Postby Gena1480 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:17 am

nathan is it possible to put in simple way
is contact (attention)
like not paying attention to form
what are the steps to
not pay attention
in term of six senses
how is it attention ceases
in all my meditation i always pay attention to something
i feel like object arise with their own attention
its like a race of obects that want to be noticed
i can understand contact or attention is impermanent
with each object ceasing in our field of attention
if in reality there is no objects then there is no attention
metta to all

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Re: what is contact?

Postby ground » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:31 am

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Re: what is contact?

Postby Gena1480 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:07 am

thank you TMingyur
i reliaze something
the sound is not a sound ,the sound is not self ,we identify it what is sound,it all imagination
the form is not a form ,form is not self,we identify what is form,its all imagination
the odor is not smell ,smell is not self ,we identify what is odor,its all imagination of conscioussness
and so on
i can not see how i can understand this any further
the fact that all reality is not self ,we can't identify anything as something
all understanding is not self
all divisions of six sense are not true
the fact that in true reality there is no identificaion
we are identifying everything
for example if we take sense and make them try to understand
that smell is sound
or vision is sound
then cousioussness would divide them to understand what is what
but since concioussness is impermanent
then there is no truth in consioussness
it does not support what is true
it proves that everything that we know and understand
is not self and impermanent
for the fact that sound is not sound since the concioussness that identify it
is impermanent and perception is not self
metta


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