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Looking at waves

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Looking at waves

Postby Spiny O'Norman » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:27 am

I find I get a better feel for the 3 characteristics by watching waves break on the shore than I do with navel-gazing.

Is it just me? ;)

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby daverupa » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:14 am

But you aren't always on a shoreline. You are always breathing.

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:45 am

It doesnt matter where you get the anicca sanna (the perception of impermanence) from- the importance is not the object- but that you get anicca, see anicca, where ever you go.

Jenta (Thag 1.111)


Going forth is hard;
houses are hard places to live;
the Dhamma is deep;
wealth, hard to obtain;
it's hard to keep going
with whatever we get:
so it's right that we ponder
continually
continual
inconstancy.


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby Reductor » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:56 am

You aren't gazing hard enough!

Every meditation for me seems like a well of anicca.

Instead with insight let him see each presently arisen state.
Let him know that, and be sure of it.

Moving from daily mindfulness to mindfulness only of the body sitting is.change. Moving attention from just the body sitting to the breath alone is change. Fading away of perceptions not related to breath is change. Increase in joy is change. Loss of joy is change. Increase of perceptions is change. Return to day to day mondfulness is change.

Going from content to not content is change. Going from dissatisfied to satisfied is change.

And these are just some examples.

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby bodom » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:21 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby manas » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:02 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby santa100 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:25 pm

The Russian nesting doll could be used as a model that represents the world. While the decoration, color, image, and size maybe different, the basic shape is the same. So just like that, everything in the world might appear differently to one's eyes, but they all shared the same shape of anicca, anatta, and dukkha..

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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby Claudia » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:59 am

When I am at the shore and look at the waves, I think of the "coming and going, coming and going, coming and going....".
Sometimes, when I have difficulties with my concentration (for example when I had a difficult day) and I need to calm down, I think of the waves and it is eaier to me to focus my attention to my breath.
Waves are coming - I breathe in, waves are going - I breathe out.

The waves get united with my breathing (in my mind and my feelings) and I let go.....

Unfortunately I do not live next to a shore.
Many greetings from

Claudia

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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby Ben » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:38 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby alan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:46 am

Nice idea. I like that!

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby Claudia » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:23 am

Thank you, Ben. This is a great inspiration. :thumbsup:
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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:43 pm

With Metta

Karuna
Mudita
& Upekkha

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Re: Looking at waves

Postby Spiny O'Norman » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:24 pm

I also find that a distant horizon has a way of putting things into perspective.
Somewhat similar to this:
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/show/

Spiny


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