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the great vegetarian debate

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:51 am

Some monks may indeed cultivate a preference for meat. However the basic attitude that they are encouraged to develop is equanimity to what is in their bowls.I know several of the Chithurst monks have grappled with that issue. They would prefer vegetarian food. But a cultivated equanimity to what they eat trumps their own preference.
They take after all as one of their exemplars the possibly apocryphal story of the Bhikhhu who was given Dana by a leper whose finger fell into the bowl, and who simply pushed it to one side.
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The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Postby Jhana4 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:46 am

I go to a Sri Lankan Vihara in my area. When the head monks posts announcements for events involving food he asks that the food be vegetarian and nobody in the Sri Lankan community has any problem with that.

I agree with the previous point. It starts with asking...
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Postby Ben » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:32 pm

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:45 pm

What about if the meat is bought in a supermarket?

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Then if it does not come from a proscribed species, and is not eaten after noon, and is freely offered, it does not breach Vinaya.
I know that there are many western converts who consider themselves as morally superior to those who formed the Vinaya , or somehow more " advanced" or aware, or compassionate, but there it is.
One can squirm and wriggle all one wants but the fact remains that meat eating under clearly defined circumstances is allowable for the ordained Sangha and is a matter of individual choice for Theravadin lay people. No one is forced to consort with Theravadin Buddhists. There are plenty of Mahayana schools particularly the Chinese ones, and many Vedanta groups where vegetarianism is compulsory.
For some Tibetan Buddhists meat eating is mandatory during pujas. But that is their business.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:26 pm

Always a joy. The way that vegetarianism brings out the metta in everyone... :lol:
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Postby marissagianna » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:05 am

There are many vegans do not eat foods that are processed using animal products, such as refined white sugar and some wines. Most of times vegans also avoid the use of some products tested on animals, as well as animal-derived non-food products. A vegan diet includes all vegetables and fruits, infinite number of foods.

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Postby m0rl0ck » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:25 pm

“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig


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