xtracorrupt wrote:If suffering is a consequence of ignorance, why haven't u overcome ignorance?
If you are a smoker for 50 years and then you suddenly learn that smoking is bad for you, do you think you can give up smoking immediately? If you go from 40 cigarettes a day to 35 is this not progress?
If you have, you will no longer commit any mistakes correct?
If you completely overcome ignorance you become a Buddha.
However i still see suffering, so why is it still there?
Because all beings have not overcome their ignorance.
I pondered over the possibility of happiness being a mistake, but then i expressed that it wouldn't be a mistake because its happiness and happiness is incapable of being a mistake? In the past, there has been suffering from the consequence of mistakes.
Let's get something clear, in samsara all circumstances and actions ultimately lead to suffering when based on attachment, aversion and ignorance. Happy or sad. Mistaken or purposeful. That is the reality of conditioned existence.
How are you able of judging the buddha's goal(doesn't matter to me, but I'm interested why it matters to you, help me please so i can learn)?
Well, Buddha taught the path that leads to awakening, the end of suffering so I gues he wished the suffering experienced by sentient beings to end. Just a wild stab in the dark really!
If the buddha was a real buddha, wouldn't his goal be happiness?
True happiness is born of the equanimity free of the extremes of attachment and aversion. That is what I have been taught.
Is a buddha not of full dedication? If he is of full dedication, why hasn't the freer of suffering''buddha''(correct me if I'm wrong) achieved the freedom of suffering? Why would the buddha stop ending suffering if that was what he truely wanted?
The Buddha is free of suffering. He is NOT (for the second time) omnipotent. YOU are responsible for your suffering thus you are responsible for your liberation. The Buddha pointed out the path, it's up to you to follow it (or not).
Also if your capable of judging what you can see and what you cannot, you must have full perception of suffering, so how come you allow it to happen?
Habit and laziness.
Yes, I am saying that suffering arises from belief in the necessity of the phenomenon, Im saying one should understand phenomenon and concentrate on the single phenomenon of happiness. There is no need to worry because happiness comes naturally/normally and once it has been fully understood there will be no reason to return to suffering. Why would there be a reason to suffer?
Happiness or joy is, like all phenomena, an impermanent state. as such it will lead ultimately to suffering. There is no need to suffer, but immersing oneself in temporary pleasure will not erradicate suffering ONCE AND FOR ALL. Only enlightenment can do this.
Interesting is it not that we are reduced to needing other phenomenon in order to communicate? Which doesn't make sense because we need multiple phenomenon in order to complete one phenomenon, in which I'm talking about communicate, communicating without causing suffering. Which means we failed because we need to ask questions in order to obtain information. You doing a mix of both, I'm hoping your statements are incapable of being lies or causing suffering( same thing obviously, truth = no suffering) and that your questions have only goal to obtain information in order to prevent suffering(they shouldn't be necessary anyways)
That is why the Buddha taught right speech. he understood that speech can cause suffering so he laid down some guidelines so that an activity that we really cannot avoid will not cause so much harm.
With the eye of wisdom we discover a lot of anger in us, any amount of jealousy, resentment, ignorance, desire - mountains of emotion whose existence we would never have suspected in ourselves... We recognize that most of the faults we perceive in others are only the mirror of our own negativity, the reflection of our own disturbed feelings... At the same time, we relieve the world around us of the burden of our own negative judgements."
Gendun Rinpoche Heart Advice from a Mahamudra Master