Pero wrote:heart wrote:Pero wrote:How does anuyoga look like for other teachers?
Other teachers always refer to Anuyoga as specializing in the second and third empowerment practices.
An other thing is that for example Tukdrup Barche Kunsel is considered, even in Chokling Tersar, to be Mahayoga. The leyang, the Trinely Nyingpo, have a development stage that is like a fast Mahayoga. However the ghynkher of that same practice, the concise daily practice, use a instant visualization style. Then of course there is a part of the Tukdrup Barche Kunsel that is a pure Dzogchen teaching, Rigdzin Pema Jugne is just a teaching on Trechö and Tögal as well as a teaching on the six liberations, this empowerment is in the Rinchen Terdzö in the Mengakde section of Atiyoga. So just looking just at one single cycle, that is considered Mahayoga, this distinctions between Mahayoga, Anuyoga and Atiyoga becomes quite difficult to follow.
So the practices we do in DC that we consider anuyoga other teachers would consider as atiyoga (like you mentioned the Shitro Khorde Rangdrol)? Is there nothing that other teachers would think of as anuyoga in DC (the only deity practices we have with tsalung, as far as I know, are Mandarava, Vajrapani and Sinhamukha and the latter two have not been taught in my time or perhaps at all)?
It seems a bit confusing to me hehe. When I received Thugje Chenpo Munsel Dronme (Pema Lingpa terma) from Gangteng Tulku Rinpoche, he said that it belongs to the Yangti. But I don't think I can see any big difference between it and the other practices in DC. Unfortunately I didn't remember to ask what exactly makes it Yangti when I had the chance recently.
Oh, I agree that it is confusing. Unfortunately I have no real answers. It seems to me that there are two approaches, either you teach maha/anu/ati like a gradual path starting with maha and ending in ati or you teach Dzogchen and add just about anything you see helpful to that. No one seems to be teaching only Maha or only Anu or only Ati. Then of course the terma cycles (or systems as someone suggested) can contain just about any kind of mix of teachings and practices of the inner tantras. So I don't think Nyingma is very well organized in this way, or maybe it is just perfect. At least for me.