ok, i didn't think it matters whether one takes refuge from an ordained member of the theravada sangha or a lay member. The process is referred to as a 'formality' by SN Goenka so - i answered in the positive.
Perhaps if Peter wishes to clarify and he can account for my vote in whichevr category is most appropriate.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
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