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I find the concept of Emanation in Buddhism as interesting.Mahakala is an emanation of Avalokiteshvara,in turn Avalokiteshvara is an emanation of Amitabha Buddha(I think.).But how exactly does emanations work?Are Buddhas and Bodhisattva the only beings capable of doing this?

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Red Faced Buddha wrote:
But how exactly does emanations work?

From my understanding, this isn't ever really explained. But I would love to be shown otherwise.


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tomamundsen wrote:
Red Faced Buddha wrote:
But how exactly does emanations work?

From my understanding, this isn't ever really explained. But I would love to be shown otherwise.


Likewise.

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I can really only talk from my limited experience and understanding. Please bear that in mind.
An emanation is an aspect, quality or principle of an Ideal Archetype. These are filtered, presented or manifested through unique interpretations for the human mind. So in Sufism, Allah has 99 emanations, in Kabbalah the Godhead emanates through ten principle sephira and so on . . .
In Buddhist Tantra, aspects of the Buddhas enlightened mind can be presented from a central quality with various aspects. These have elements of mnemonic symbology and associative experiences (initiation). We build a relationship and awareness through focus. When we click our fingers nothing is there. The experience is as real as our devotion and practice allows.
It is a bit like the human personality. We as people, include bits of our parents, our friends and our childhood. Yet we are one unique persona that emanates different 'people' for different situations. Think about how different needs cause you to express yourself differently. So too with the emanations . . .

Hope that is helpful. :popcorn:

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lobster wrote:
I can really only talk from my limited experience and understanding. Please bear that in mind.
An emanation is an aspect, quality or principle of an Ideal Archetype. These are filtered, presented or manifested through unique interpretations for the human mind. So in Sufism, Allah has 99 emanations, in Kabbalah the Godhead emanates through ten principle sephira and so on . . .
In Buddhist Tantra, aspects of the Buddhas enlightened mind can be presented from a central quality with various aspects. These have elements of mnemonic symbology and associative experiences (initiation). We build a relationship and awareness through focus. When we click our fingers nothing is there. The experience is as real as our devotion and practice allows.
It is a bit like the human personality. We as people, include bits of our parents, our friends and our childhood. Yet we are one unique persona that emanates different 'people' for different situations. Think about how different needs cause you to express yourself differently. So too with the emanations . . .

Hope that is helpful. :popcorn:


Kind of confusing.

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Sorry about the confusion, what I meant to say is a bright light comes out of the Pureland. As it comes towards us it shimmers or emanates through different Boddhisattva. When it reaches us it is still from the Pureland and as we move towards it, the light becomes stronger. It is still the same original light.

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Mahakala for example is the way Avalokiteshvara looks when he becomes wrathful. Like how when people's faces change expressions according to their emotions. I haven't read that anywhere, that's just how I see it.


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An emanation is another manifestation of the mindstream of a Buddha or high Bodhisattva (8th bhumi and up) for a specific intention. This is different from a tulku.

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I find the concept of Emanation in Buddhism as interesting.Mahakala is an emanation of Avalokiteshvara,in turn Avalokiteshvara is an emanation of Amitabha Buddha(I think.)and Dorje Shugden is considered by some to be an emanation of Manjushri Bodhisattva.But how exactly does emanations work?Are Buddhas and Bodhisattva the only beings capable of doing this?


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Red Faced Buddha wrote:
I find the concept of Emanation in Buddhism as interesting.Mahakala is an emanation of Avalokiteshvara,in turn Avalokiteshvara is an emanation of Amitabha Buddha(I think.)and Dorje Shugden is considered by some to be an emanation of Manjushri Bodhisattva.But how exactly does emanations work?Are Buddhas and Bodhisattva the only beings capable of doing this?


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I understand,I was just trying to think of a few examples.I've found it helps if you list three or more examples of something you're talking about.Those were the only three examples I could think of.

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